Two-electrode spherical system (Potential)

In summary, the conversation revolves around a problem involving potential and electric field. The provided solution includes an integral and references to a figure attached. Questions are raised regarding the negative sign in the integral and the choice of reference for the potential. Ultimately, it is concluded that the solution should include a negative sign and the choice of reference is correct as it is already 0. Further clarification is made regarding the evaluation of the integral.
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Homework Statement



See figure attached.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



See figure attached for the provided solution.

I got everything up to what I put in a red box.

Where does he get that negative from?

Did he do that with the intentions of reversing the limits on his integral?
 

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[itex]\displaystyle \Phi_r-\Phi_b=-\int_b^r\vec{E}\cdot\vec{dr}[/itex]
 
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SammyS said:
[itex]\displaystyle \Phi_r-\Phi_b=-\int_b^r\vec{E}\cdot\vec{dr}[/itex]

Isn't that the potential at some radius r, with the reference set at radius b?

In the question it says that the reference for the potential should be the potential on the inner conductor where the radius is a.

I have the urge to write,

[tex]\phi(r) = \int_{b}^{r} \vec{E} \cdot \vec{dr} + C[/tex]

Where C is chosen such that,

[tex]\phi(a) = 0[/tex]

but we already know from the first part that it is already 0, so C=0.
 
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From the first part, we know that Φb = Φa
 
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SammyS said:
From the first part, we know that Φb = Φa

On the third line from the bottom, didn't he miss a negative when he evaluated his integral?

It should be,

[tex]\left(-\frac{1}{r} \right)^{r}_{c} = \frac{1}{c} - \frac{1}{r}[/tex]

Correct?
 
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After looking at it for some time, I agree with you.
 

1. What is a two-electrode spherical system?

A two-electrode spherical system refers to a setup where two electrodes, typically made of metal, are placed in a spherical container filled with an electrolyte solution. This system is commonly used in electrochemistry experiments to study the potential difference between the two electrodes.

2. How is potential measured in a two-electrode spherical system?

Potential is measured by connecting a voltmeter between the two electrodes in the spherical system. The voltmeter measures the potential difference between the electrodes, which is affected by the concentration of ions in the solution and the type of material used for the electrodes.

3. What factors affect the potential in a two-electrode spherical system?

The potential in a two-electrode spherical system is affected by several factors, including the concentration of ions in the solution, the type of electrolyte, the type of electrodes used, the temperature of the system, and the distance between the electrodes. These factors can influence the movement of electrons and ions, which ultimately affects the potential difference between the electrodes.

4. Why is a two-electrode spherical system commonly used in electrochemistry experiments?

A two-electrode spherical system is commonly used in electrochemistry experiments because it allows for a controlled and isolated environment for studying the potential difference between two electrodes. The spherical shape ensures that the electric field is evenly distributed, and the setup is relatively simple and easy to replicate.

5. How does the potential in a two-electrode spherical system change over time?

The potential in a two-electrode spherical system can change over time as a result of various factors, such as the movement of ions and electrons, changes in temperature, and the buildup of reaction products on the electrodes. This change can be measured and analyzed to understand the kinetics and thermodynamics of the electrochemical reactions taking place in the system.

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