Two-electrode spherical system (Potential)

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The discussion revolves around a two-electrode spherical system and the calculation of electric potential. Participants are examining the relationship between electric field and potential, particularly in the context of a given reference point for potential.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the derivation of potential differences and questioning the use of negative signs in integrals. There is also discussion about the choice of reference points for potential and the implications of these choices on the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants are actively questioning the steps taken in the provided solution, particularly regarding the evaluation of integrals and the assignment of reference potentials. There is a recognition of potential errors in the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with the assumption that the potential on the inner conductor is zero, which influences their calculations and discussions about constants in the equations.

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See figure attached for the provided solution.

I got everything up to what I put in a red box.

Where does he get that negative from?

Did he do that with the intentions of reversing the limits on his integral?
 

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\displaystyle \Phi_r-\Phi_b=-\int_b^r\vec{E}\cdot\vec{dr}
 
SammyS said:
\displaystyle \Phi_r-\Phi_b=-\int_b^r\vec{E}\cdot\vec{dr}

Isn't that the potential at some radius r, with the reference set at radius b?

In the question it says that the reference for the potential should be the potential on the inner conductor where the radius is a.

I have the urge to write,

\phi(r) = \int_{b}^{r} \vec{E} \cdot \vec{dr} + C

Where C is chosen such that,

\phi(a) = 0

but we already know from the first part that it is already 0, so C=0.
 
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From the first part, we know that Φb = Φa
 
SammyS said:
From the first part, we know that Φb = Φa


On the third line from the bottom, didn't he miss a negative when he evaluated his integral?

It should be,

\left(-\frac{1}{r} \right)^{r}_{c} = \frac{1}{c} - \frac{1}{r}

Correct?
 
After looking at it for some time, I agree with you.
 

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