Two exercises on complex sequences (one about Mandelbrot set)

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The discussion focuses on two exercises involving complex sequences. For the first exercise, it is established that if the modulus of a complex number α is less than 1, then the limit of α^n as n approaches infinity is 0, while if the modulus is greater than 1, the sequence diverges to infinity. In the second exercise, participants are tasked with proving that the Mandelbrot set, defined by a recursive sequence, is contained within the circle of radius 2. Initial attempts to prove this involve analyzing the growth of the sequence terms and leveraging inequalities to show that if |c| exceeds 2, the sequence cannot remain bounded. The conversation emphasizes the need for a rigorous approach to demonstrate the unbounded nature of the sequence when |c| > 2.
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Homework Statement .

I am trying to solve two exercises about complex sequences:

1) Let ##\alpha \in \mathbb C##, ##|\alpha|<1##. Which is the limit ##\lim_{n \to \infty} \alpha^n##?, do the same for the case ##|\alpha|>1##.

2) Let ##\mathcal M## be the set of the complex numbers ##c## such that the sequence defined recursively by: ##z_0=0##, ##z_{n+1}={z_n}^2+c## is bounded (##\mathcal M## is called the Mandelbrot set). Prove that ##\mathcal M \subset \{|z|\leq 2\}##

The attempt at a solution.

For point 1) what I did was: if ##|\alpha|<1##, I can express ##\alpha## in its exponential form, so ##\alpha=re^{iθ}## for ##0<r<1## and ##0\leq θ<2\pi##. Then, ##\alpha^n=r^ne^{niθ}##. Let's show that ##\alpha^n \to 0##, ##0\leq |r^ne^{niθ}|=|r^n(\cos(θ)+i\sin(θ))|\leq 2|r|^n \to 0##.

I don't know what to do for the case ##|\alpha|>1##. In this case, if I consider the vector from the point ##(0,0)## to ##(a,b)##, where ##\alpha^n=a+ib##, then the length of the vector tends to infinity. But I don't what to say about the limit of ##\alpha^n##. From my observation, I could conclude that ##|\alpha^n| \to \infty##. Would this imply that the sequence ##\{\alpha^n\}_{n \in \mathbb N}## doesn't have a limit?.

For point 2), I don't have any idea how to prove this. Suppose ##\mathcal M \not \subset \{|z|\leq 2\}##. Then, there is some ##c \in \mathcal M : |c|>2##. How could I prove that the sequence ##\{z_n\}_{n \in \mathbb N}## is not bounded?
 
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mahler1 said:
Homework Statement .

I am trying to solve two exercises about complex sequences:

1) Let ##\alpha \in \mathbb C##, ##|\alpha|<1##. Which is the limit ##\lim_{n \to \infty} \alpha^n##?, do the same for the case ##|\alpha|>1##.

2) Let ##\mathcal M## be the set of the complex numbers ##c## such that the sequence defined recursively by: ##z_0=0##, ##z_{n+1}={z_n}^2+c## is bounded (##\mathcal M## is called the Mandelbrot set). Prove that ##\mathcal M \subset \{|z|\leq 2\}##

The attempt at a solution.

For point 1) what I did was: if ##|\alpha|<1##, I can express ##\alpha## in its exponential form, so ##\alpha=re^{iθ}## for ##0<r<1## and ##0\leq θ<2\pi##. Then, ##\alpha^n=r^ne^{niθ}##. Let's show that ##\alpha^n \to 0##, ##0\leq |r^ne^{niθ}|=|r^n(\cos(θ)+i\sin(θ))|\leq 2|r|^n \to 0##.

Yes.

Note however that ##|r^n e^{ni\theta}| = r^n##. This is a better approximation. But your method was good too.

I don't know what to do for the case ##|\alpha|>1##. In this case, if I consider the vector from the point ##(0,0)## to ##(a,b)##, where ##\alpha^n=a+ib##, then the length of the vector tends to infinity. But I don't what to say about the limit of ##\alpha^n##. From my observation, I could conclude that ##|\alpha^n| \to \infty##. Would this imply that the sequence ##\{\alpha^n\}_{n \in \mathbb N}## doesn't have a limit?.

Yes.

For point 2), I don't have any idea how to prove this. Suppose ##\mathcal M \not \subset \{|z|\leq 2\}##. Then, there is some ##c \in \mathcal M : |c|>2##. How could I prove that the sequence ##\{z_n\}_{n \in \mathbb N}## is not bounded?

Take ##|c|>2##. Maybe you could start with writing out the first 5 or 6 terms of the ##z_n## sequence to see if you can find some pattern. Of course you only care about the norm of ##z_n##, since you need to show that goes to infinity.
 
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R136a1 said:
Yes.

Note however that ##|r^n e^{ni\theta}| = r^n##. This is a better approximation. But your method was good too.Take ##|c|>2##. Maybe you could start with writing out the first 5 or 6 terms of the ##z_n## sequence to see if you can find some pattern. Of course you only care about the norm of ##z_n##, since you need to show that goes to infinity.

Thanks for the first remark. Now, for the second part, I did write the first terms of the sequence but I can't arrive to an expression that helps me to prove what I want to. I mean, I would like to express ##|z_n|=z^n|c|## with ##z>1## or get to a similar expression in order to conclude that the norm tends to infinity. Could you give me another hint for that?
 
You have

|z_0| = 0
|z_1| = |c|
|z_2| = |z_1^2 + c| \ |c| |c+1|\geq |c|
|z_3| = |(c^2 + c)^2 + c| = |c^2 (c +1)^2 + c| = |c| |c(c+1)^2 + 1|\geq |c|( |c|^2 |c+1|^2 - 1) \geq |c| (|c|^2 -1) \geq |c|^2

where I make fundamental use of the inequality ##|a-b| \geq ||a| - |b||##.
 
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