Two roads meeting a river at different angles (heights and distances)

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The discussion revolves around a geometry problem involving two roads meeting a river at different angles, specifically focusing on the lengths of the roads and their relationship to the river. The original poster presents a problem statement that includes angles and distances related to the roads and the river, seeking clarification on their understanding and the provided answers.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the law of sines and question the clarity of the problem statement. There is uncertainty about the textbook answers and whether the roads meet the river on the same or opposite sides of a perpendicular line.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their interpretations and calculations. Some express confusion over the textbook answers, while others suggest that the ambiguity in the wording may lead to different interpretations. There is no clear consensus, but several participants are exploring the implications of their assumptions.

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Participants note potential discrepancies in the problem setup and the textbook answers, with some suggesting that the distance given may be incorrect. The ambiguity in the problem's wording is also highlighted as a point of concern.

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Homework Statement
Two straight roads, which cross one another, meet a river with straight course at angles ##60^{\circ}## and ##30^{\circ}##, respectively. If it be 3 miles by the longer of the two roads, from the crossing to the river, how far is it by the ##\text{shortest}## (or the shorter of the two?)? If there be a foot-path which goes the shortest way from the crossing to the river, what is the distance by it?
Relevant Equations
1. In a right-angled triangle, ##\sin\theta = \frac{\text{opposite}}{\text{hypotenuse}}##.
2. For a triangle ##\text{ABC}##, ##\frac{a}{\sin A} = \frac{b}{\sin B}##. (The Law of Sines)
1678645745230.pngProblem statement : I copy and paste the problem as it appears in the text. I hope am understanding its wording correctly.
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Diagram :
The river is shown in blue. The two roads start from the crossing C and end in A and B, making angles ##60^{\circ}## and ##30^{\circ}## resectively. The longer of the two roads CB is given to be 3 miles. Question is, how long is the shorter of the two roads AC, assuming my understanding of the problem is correct. Additionally, how long is the shortest way from C to the river, that is CD, where CD is ##\perp^r## to BA produced.

Solution : Using the law of sines (see Relevant Equations above), ##\text{AC} = \text{BC}\times \frac{\sin 30^{\circ}}{\sin 60^{\circ}} = 3\times \frac{1}{2}\times \frac{2}{\sqrt 3} = \sqrt 3 = \boxed{1.73\,\, \text{miles}}##.
The distance CD = ##BC\, \sin 30^{\circ} = 3\times\frac{1}{2} = \boxed{1.5\,\text{miles}}##.Issue : The answers don't match with those in the text. I copy and paste the text answers below.
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A hint or help would be welcome. I am perplexed at the moment, given the simplicity of the problem. Or am I deceiving myself?
 
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I get the same answer as you got. For the pasted textbook answer, I don't know how they got ##2 \frac 1 2## miles, and I don't understand the first part, which is unclear. It says either "##2 \cdot 89##... miles" or "##2 \cdot 80##... miles".
 
Mark44 said:
I get the same answer as you got. For the pasted textbook answer, I don't know how they got ##2 \frac 1 2## miles, and I don't understand the first part, which is unclear. It says either "##2 \cdot 89##... miles" or "##2 \cdot 80##... miles".
I think I have an idea. I assumed (naively) that the two roads "meet" the river bank on the same side as that of the perpendicular (CD). Is it possible that they meet on opposite sides of D? I should carry out the solution if that is what the authors mean by "crossing".

All the same, the wording is ambiguous, if you'll agree.
 
brotherbobby said:
Is it possible that they meet on opposite sides of D?
I thought of that, too, but I don't think it makes a difference in the length of AC.
 
Yes, forgive me. AC remains the same on either side. It is a puzzle. I think I have to accept the book being mistaken here.
 
brotherbobby said:
Yes, forgive me. AC remains the same on either side. It is a puzzle. I think I have to accept the book being mistaken here.
It's been known to happen that the posted answers in a textbook are wrong ...
 
brotherbobby said:
Yes, forgive me. AC remains the same on either side. It is a puzzle. I think I have to accept the book being mistaken here.
I believe the mistake is in the 3 miles distance.
For the values of the response to be correct, the distance from crossing to river via BC should have been 5.0 miles.
 
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You don't even need the sine rule to solve this problem since we are dealing with right triangles.
 
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