Two vector spaces being isomorphic

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The discussion revolves around the isomorphism between vector spaces, specifically the vector space of real polynomials of degree at most k, denoted as Pk, and the vector space Rn. Participants explore the conditions under which these two spaces can be considered isomorphic, focusing on the concept of dimension.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the dimensions of Pk and Rn, questioning how the degree of polynomials relates to their dimensionality. There are attempts to clarify the basis of polynomial spaces and the implications of dimension in the context of isomorphism.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants providing insights into the dimensionality of polynomial spaces and their bases. Some have suggested that the dimension of Pk is k+1, which aligns with the requirement for isomorphism with Rn. There is an ongoing exploration of these concepts without a definitive consensus yet.

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Participants are working with the assumption that the isomorphism depends on equal dimensions, and there is some uncertainty regarding the implications of polynomial degrees on dimensionality. The original poster has indicated a lack of prior knowledge due to missed lectures, which may affect their understanding of the topic.

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sadly not been able to put much effort into this one! was a lecture i missed towards the end of term and didnt get the notes on it, however here is the question.
for K>or equal to 1 let Pk denote the the vector space of all real polynomials of degree at most k. For which value of n is Pk isomorphic to Rn. Give a brief reason for your answer.

Now from what i have found on two vector spaces being isomorphic they need to have equal dimensions (dimu=dimv) so knowing that we have dimRn)=n is as far as i have got. Not really understanding this one, surely they would be isomorphic at any value of n as long as it's between 1 and k?
 
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How many basis vectors do you need to span P_k?
 


For example, P1 is the space of all first degree polynomials which can be written in the form ax+ b which, in turn, can be mapped to (a,b) in R2.
 
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so for a second degree polynomial you would have ax2 +bx +c so is the answer just n-1 because the dimension of a polynomial is always one higher than the degree?
 


A single polynomial doesn't have a 'dimension'. The point is that the set of ALL degree two or less polynomials can be represented as linear combinations of the three linearly independent functions 1, x and x^2. They form a basis. The 'dimension' of a space is the number of elements in a basis.
 


Ok, so the basis formed by the polynomial is always going to be one higher than the degree of the polynomial, therefore value of n that will make Pk isomorphic to n has to be k+1? (crosses fingers and preys)
 


Preys? I think you want to pray. Sure, P_k has dimension k+1. R^n has dimension n. Two finite dimensional vector spaces are isomorphic if they have the same dimension.
 


thanks, that's much simpler than it first looked.
 

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