Two vectors are parallel if their cross product is 0?

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Two vectors are parallel if their cross product equals zero or if one vector is a scalar multiple of the other. In the discussion, the vectors are defined as u = 9i - 6j and v = 5i + bj. To determine the value of b that makes u - v point in the same direction as w = 7i - 3j, participants suggest setting the ratios of the components equal. The discussion emphasizes that while the cross product method is valid, a simpler approach involves using component ratios.

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the question is:

u = 9i-6j
and
v = 5i+bj

for what value of b would u-v point in the same direction as w = 7i-3j?

can anyone help me get started on this problem, I am not looking for answers just a little bit of help because I'm confused.. thanks
 
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There's no 'b' in your problem statement. What is it?
 
Dick, the b is in the v component. I missed it at first glance too.
Anyway teffy, what conditions do you know that tests if two vectors are parallel?
 
v=5i + bj

thats where the b is..
 
Ooops. Missed it. So u-v=4i+(-6-b)j. Now answer arunbg's question.
 
um that two vectors are parallel if their cross product is 0?...
 
So what do you get when you take the cross product?
 
i think that's where my problem lies now...im not sure how to find that out.
 
That's one way. But in only really works in three dimensions. More generally vectors A and B point in the same direction if A=k*B for some k>0 (any nonzero k if you don't mind them pointing in opposite directions). So you could set the ratio of the components equal.
 
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okay so then how do i find the value of b?
 
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Write down expressions for the ratio of the i components and the ratio of the j components and set them equal.
 
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Pictures often help with vectors!

(Cross-product will work, but, as you've found out, it's not particularly easy, and there is a simpler way)

If you're stuck, it often helps to draw a picture. :smile:

You did head this as a vectors problem, rather than an algebra one.

So draw (only roughly) the two vectors you have to make parallel!

What trigonometric thing could you measue to check if they're parallel?
 

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