Two Weighted Pulleys with a Suspended Mass

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The problem involves a uniform circular disk and a pulley system with a suspended mass. The disk rotates about a horizontal axis, and the setup includes a massless cord, a non-uniform pulley, and a hanging mass. Participants are tasked with finding the acceleration of the hanging mass, the tension in the cord, and the angular velocity of the pulley as the mass descends.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension and acceleration, noting the need to solve for tension to find acceleration. Some express confusion about how to approach the problem without using energy conservation, while others suggest drawing free-body diagrams to identify forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. There is recognition of the complexity due to multiple moments of inertia and tensions involved in the system.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the class has not covered energy conservation, which influences their approach to solving the problem. There is also a note about the non-uniform mass distribution of the pulley affecting the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Consider a uniform 10-kg circular disk with diameter .4m. The disk is free to rotate about a horizontal axis through its center. A (massless) cord wrapped around the disk passes over a 2-kg pulley, P, with diameter .2m and is attached to a 25-kg mass. The pulley's mass distribution is non-uniform, so its moment of inertia may be estimated as I=(3/4)*(m(r^2)). When the hanging mass is released from rest, it descends 1.2 m to the ground. Find
A) The acceleration of the hanging mass.
B)The tension in the cord
C)The angular velocity of the pulley when the mass reaches the ground.

Homework Equations


ma=mg-T
I=(3/4)*(m(r^2))
a=(αr)
τ=Iα

The Attempt at a Solution


I am having trouble with part A. I know that to find the acceleration I obviously have to solve for the tension in the cord but solving for the tension is part B. I also know that the tension in the rope will be uniform throughout, so I should be able to substitute in terms I know to be able to solve for acceleration. However, I cannot figure out how I am supposed to solve for acceleration in this case. Any help is appreciated.
 
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Have you thought about using conservation of energy to solve this problem? Draw the free-body diagrams, and label what forces are acting where, keep in mind that the moment of inertia of the pulley will affect the force.
 
I would use conservation of energy, but this class has not even touched energy at all. We are expected to use force balance and torque only.
 
steakums said:

Homework Statement


Consider a uniform 10-kg circular disk with diameter .4m. The disk is free to rotate about a horizontal axis through its center. A (massless) cord wrapped around the disk passes over a 2-kg pulley, P, with diameter .2m and is attached to a 25-kg mass. The pulley's mass distribution is non-uniform, so its moment of inertia may be estimated as I=(3/4)*(m(r^2)). When the hanging mass is released from rest, it descends 1.2 m to the ground. Find
A) The acceleration of the hanging mass.
B)The tension in the cord
C)The angular velocity of the pulley when the mass reaches the ground.

Homework Equations


ma=mg-T
I=(3/4)*(m(r^2))
a=(αr)
τ=Iα

The Attempt at a Solution


I am having trouble with part A. I know that to find the acceleration I obviously have to solve for the tension in the cord but solving for the tension is part B. I also know that the tension in the rope will be uniform throughout, so I should be able to substitute in terms I know to be able to solve for acceleration. However, I cannot figure out how I am supposed to solve for acceleration in this case. Any help is appreciated.
There are two different moments of inertia and two different angular accelerations as well as two different tensions.
 

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