UFO News: Japan's Extraterrestrial Activity

[Ivan Seeking]

Please start another thread.

 

[kasse]

Can you provide a link for his claims?

New thread started.

 

[pftest]

Hold up,

The 'more info' in the youtube video reads as follows#

This is a video was on a cheap camera I found when Hiking in the Smokey Mountains.
This is all that was on it.

Finding a camera with ufo footage on it sounds extremely implausible.

* Here is the proof that its not real, it was made for a ufo competition by a guy called Jeff Wilson:
http://www.ufo-blog.com/ufo-blog/

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Do you think?

I think we are done with this one.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

...Steve Robey remembers it like it was yesterday. The now-retired air traffic controller was working the night shift at the Melbourne Flight Service Unit on Saturday, October 21, 1978, when the call came in at 7.06pm.

Pilot Frederick Valentich, flying from Moorabbin Airport to King Island to pick up some crayfish, reported that a strange aircraft was "playing a game with him" and he wanted to know if any military planes were in the area...

http://www.theage.com.au/national/30-years-on-ufo-mystery-still-vivid-20081011-4yss.html

References to official documents for this event are found in the UFO Napster.

 

[gareth]

http://www.theage.com.au/national/30-years-on-ufo-mystery-still-vivid-20081011-4yss.html

References to official documents for this event are found in the UFO Napster.

Interesting case, it seems that this area has a bit of a reputation, check out this Wiki article;





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Strait_Triangle"

 

[nuby]

LONDON (Reuters) – Two U.S. fighter planes were scrambled and ordered to shoot down an unidentified flying object (UFO) over the English countryside during the Cold War, according to secret files made public on Monday.

One pilot said he was seconds away from firing 24 rockets at the object, which moved erratically and gave a radar reading like "a flying aircraft carrier."

The pilot, Milton Torres, now 77 and living in Miami, said it spent periods motionless in the sky before reaching estimated speeds of more than 7,600 mph (12,000 kph)...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081020/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_ufo


MIB! lol

 

[Ai52487963]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7679145.stm

"The chances of there being nothing else in billions of cubic light years is too slim to consider"

 

[edward]

From an article in my morning paper.

LONDON — An American fighter pilot flying from an English air base at the height of the Cold War was ordered to open fire on a massive UFO that lit up his radar, according to an account published by Britain's National Archives on Monday.

http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/263382


Source given in the hard copy:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

 

[edward]

For what it is worth here are other incidents in the UK that were declassified and put into the national archives this month.

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

 

[Ivan Seeking]

More UFO reports from Texas [with video]
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/10/25/pkg.tx.more.ufo.sightings.wfaa

 

[Ivan Seeking]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081020/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_britain_ufo

If you believe former fighter pilot Milton Torres' story — and news organizations around the world are running with it — the U.S. Air Force was seconds from attacking an alien aircraft over England late one cloudy night in 1957.

Possible interstellar war was averted when the unidentified flying object sped away.

"It was not made of this earth," said Torres, 77, a retired Florida International University engineering professor.

Torres' account was included in thousands of pages of UFO-related documents recently declassified by the British Ministry of Defense and posted online by the British national archive.[continued]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/6077389.html

 

[DaveC426913]

So is anyone who's reviewing all this new evidence finding that they're changing their opinion from pro to con or con to pro?

 

[dlgoff]

More UFO reports from Texas [with video]
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/10/25/pkg.tx.more.ufo.sightings.wfaa

The video doesn't seem to work.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

You may need to update your adobe flash player.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Here is an alternative link.
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/localnews/news8/stories/wfaa081025_lj_ufo.1497ef4d3.html

 

[Ivan Seeking]

UFOs over Austin?

AUSTIN -- Carl Lancaster of Austin believes that UFOs are hovering over the city's sky at night and believes he has the video to prove it. Foti Kallergis spoke with Lancaster who showed FOX 7 his UFO footage...

http://www.myfoxaustin.com/myfox/pa...n=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Note that at the end, the good Professor makes a classic debunking error. His argument against visting ETs is that were ETs visiting, he knows what they would be doing. Since the alleged ETs aren't doing what he would expect, clearly they aren't here!

Obviously we have no way to anticipate the motivations or logic behind the actions of a visiting ET, were ETs visiting.

 

[gareth]

They're interesting vids, darting around, disappearing and re-appearing...a classic UFO.

I agree about the Dr.'s comments, I especially like the one They would just take over again anticipating the actions of visiting ETs, with a definate underlying hollywood influence.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

The Danish Air Force has opened its UFO archives...over 15,000 report

UFO archives are now readily available to the public, detailing sightings from over the last 30 years. The Danish Air Force published the archive online yesterday because it felt that ‘there was nothing secret in the files’.

The Air Force said that most of the sightings remained ‘unidentified’ because the details were not precise enough. However, some of the reports contained enough description to rule out the UFOs as aircraft, weather phenomenon or paper lanterns...

http://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/article/88-national/44602-secret-ufo-archives-opened.html

 

[Ivan Seeking]

U.f.o spotted over brean,sommerset

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eoAkC1vPfA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uswvFfpGovU

 

[subliminal]

New member here, I am a MUFON investigator. If anyone is interested I can give you the Radar Report from the Stephensville Texas case. It is lengthy about 80 pages or so but it is very interesting. The radar report backs up what the witnesses claimed to have seen.

 

[redargon]

I think we already have that one a couple pages back on this thread or on one of the others

 

[subliminal]

Really? This is a PDF file.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Really? This is a PDF file.

I think we had a reference but I don't think the entire file was available. Thanks for the offer [I assume that you are offering it for free?].

Is there no online link for this? Also, how much memory does it take?

 

[subliminal]

Here is a link to the full report. It is 77 pages long.

www.mufon.com/documents/MUFONStephenvilleRadarReport.pdf[/URL]

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Thanks. I'll add it to the UFO Napster as well.

 

[Mammo]

Ivan Seeking;

I personally believe that there could be two main reasons for the genuine UFO phenomena. One is the obvious 'saucer' shaped craft, which are either extraterrestrial or man-made whilst the other is something more down-to-earth. There is substantial evidence of 'things with wings' in the cryptozoological world. It is not beyond the bounds of reasoning to suggest that a large unknown night-flying (i.e. wing flapping) creature has developed bioluminescence. If small creatures that live at the bottom of the sea can do it, so can big things that fly in the dark. Have you ever heard of anyone with this opinion?

 

[CEL]

Ivan Seeking;

I personally believe that there could be two main reasons for the genuine UFO phenomena. One is the obvious 'saucer' shaped craft, which are either extraterrestrial or man-made whilst the other is something more down-to-earth. There is substantial evidence of 'things with wings' in the cryptozoological world. It is not beyond the bounds of reasoning to suggest that a large unknown night-flying (i.e. wing flapping) creature has developed bioluminescence. If small creatures that live at the bottom of the sea can do it, so can big things that fly in the dark. Have you ever heard of anyone with this opinion?

The two options are possible and equally probable. A more likely explanation is misidentification of aircrafts, atmospheric phenomena or heavenly bodies.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

The two options are possible and equally probable. A more likely explanation is misidentification of aircrafts, atmospheric phenomena or heavenly bodies.

In the most intersting cases, the problem with claiming atmospheric phenomena is this: What phenomena? As I have said before, even if we all agree that some of the most interesting reports are, say, due to ball lighitning, we still have quite a mystery. The problem is that we are creating explanations from thin air with no supporting evidence. To then accept these explanations is an act of faith, not science.

 

[Mammo]

In the most intersting cases, the problem with claiming atmospheric phenomena is this: What phenomena? As I have said before, even if we all agree that some of the most interesting reports are, say, due to ball lighitning, we still have quite a mystery. The problem is that we are creating explanations from thin air with no supporting evidence. To then accept these explanations is an act of faith, not science.

I agree with this. Even claims of 'earth lights' after earthquake events are total speculation. At least ball lightning has been replicated in the lab. I even believe that the 'things with wings' explanation is better than mystery Earth generated lighting effects. There was a TV programme (Monster Hunter?) where a team of investigators went to Umboi Island to film the 'pterosaur-like' creature reported by the natives. They got mystery lights recorded in the pitch dark on camera, although they couldn't see anything with the naked eye, but they definitely got the heeby-geebies.