Uncertainty with a log function

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The discussion focuses on calculating the uncertainty for a logarithmic function defined as f = 20log(V_in/V_out). The user attempts to derive the uncertainty (delta f) using calculus, specifically through the expression df = 20*f*[(dV_in/V_in) - (dV_out/V_out)]. However, the user expresses confusion regarding the subtraction in the error calculation and the lack of units in the function. The conversation highlights the need for clarity on relative error calculations in logarithmic functions.

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Homework Statement


Im trying to find the uncertainty for a log function. I have that

f = 20log(V_in/V_out)

and i want to know (delta)f

Homework Equations



f = 20log(V_in/V_out)

The Attempt at a Solution



I was going to do it the calculus way:

f = 20log(V_in) -20log(V_out)

df = 20*f*[(dV_in/V_in) - (dV_out/V_out)]

but this doesn't seem right to me. I've never seen subtraction in an error calculation before. And I am not sure if this is a relative error or a percent error. I want a relative error (with units), the only problem is that my function has no units, soI'm not sure what I should do in that case (if that makes sense).

Is there another simple formula for log function errors?
 
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