Unconstrained optimziation: Local minimum

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The discussion revolves around the conditions for identifying local minimum points in the context of unconstrained optimization, specifically focusing on the implications of the Hessian matrix being positive semi-definite versus positive definite.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions whether a point with a zero gradient and a positive semi-definite Hessian can be concluded as a local minimum, referencing a theorem from their textbook.
  • Another participant provides a counterexample involving a specific function to illustrate that a positive semi-definite Hessian does not guarantee a local minimum.
  • Further inquiries are made about the relationship between positive definite and positive semi-definite Hessians, as well as the equivalence of positive definiteness in one-variable functions to the second derivative being greater than zero.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring the nuances of the conditions for local minima. A counterexample has been provided, prompting further questions about related concepts. There is no explicit consensus, but clarification is being sought on foundational definitions and implications.

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The original poster notes a lack of information in their textbook regarding the implications of a positive semi-definite Hessian, which has led to their inquiry. The discussion also touches on the necessity and sufficiency of conditions for local minima.

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Homework Statement


Theorem:
Let f: M->R
where M is a open subset of Rn
Suppose f is C2(M)
Let x E M such that
"gradient of f at x" = 0 and the Hessian of f at x is positive definite
Then x is a strict local minimum point of f.
The above theorem is given in my textbook.

If instead we have "gradient of f at x" = 0 and the Hessian of f at x is positive SEMI-definite, can we conclue that x is a local minimum point of f? Why or why not?
This puzzles me and I can't find this in the textbook.

Homework Equations


Unconstrained optimziation

The Attempt at a Solution


N/A

Any help is appreciated!
 
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kingwinner said:

Homework Statement


Theorem:
Let f: M->R
where M is a open subset of Rn
Suppose f is C2(M)
Let x E M such that
"gradient of f at x" = 0 and the Hessian of f at x is positive definite
Then x is a strict local minimum point of f.
The above theorem is given in my textbook.

If instead we have "gradient of f at x" = 0 and the Hessian of f at x is positive SEMI-definite, can we conclue that x is a local minimum point of f? Why or why not?
This puzzles me and I can't find this in the textbook.

Homework Equations


Unconstrained optimziation

The Attempt at a Solution


N/A

Any help is appreciated!

Look at the function f(x,y) = (y - x^2)*(y - 2x^2) near (0,0). We have that (0,0) is a stationary point and the Hessian of f at (0,0) is positive semi-definite. However, (0,0) is neither a local max nor min. To see this, note that for y > 2x^2, y is above both parabolas y = x^2 and y = 2x^2, so both factors of f are > 0 and f > 0. For y < x^2, y is below both parabolas, so each factor of f is < 0 but f > 0. However, for x^2 < y < 2x^2, y is between the two parabolas, so one factor of f is > 0 and the other factor is < 0, giving f < 0. Therefore, in any neighbourhood of (0,0) there are points (x,y) where f(x,y) > f(0,0) = 0, and other points (x,y) where f(x,y) < f(0,0).

In general, having a positive semi-definite Hessian is a second-order NECESSARY condition for a minimum, but the sufficient condition for a (strict, local) minimum is stronger. Actually, this is even true in one dimension; just look at the two functions f1(x) = x^2 and f2(x) = x^3 at x = 0. In this case, the analog of positive-semidefinite is ">=0", while the analog of positive-definite is ">0".

RGV
 
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I see.

I have a few more related questions...

1) Does positive definite always imply positive semi-definite?

2) For a one-variable function f:R->R, is the Hessian being positive definite at x exactly equivalent to saying that f ''(x)>0?

Thanks for answering!
 
Yes to both.

RGV
 

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