Under what conditions can glass crack spontaneously?

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Spontaneous cracking of glass, particularly in car windshields, is highly unlikely without an external cause. In the case discussed, a rear windshield cracked suddenly while the vehicle was stationary, with no visible signs of impact. The temperature difference between the inside and outside of the car was significant, but this alone is not sufficient to cause such a failure. Experts suggest that the glass may have had pre-existing damage that went unnoticed, which combined with normal stresses from driving could have led to catastrophic failure. The discussion also highlights that tempered glass is prone to sudden failure after minor damage, and that even small impacts, such as a rock or debris kicked up by another vehicle, could initiate cracks. Overall, while spontaneous shattering is ruled out, the exact cause remains uncertain, with possibilities including prior unnoticed damage or an external impact.
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davenn said:
EDIT ... but they are OK on Chrome :smile:
And Firefox.
 
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davenn said:
none of your videos nor their links are showing ... nothing to watch
I can view them on Microsoft Edge, Chrome and Firefox. It could be that your browser's video codec crashed. You might want to try closing and re-opening your browser. And if that doesn't work, maybe reboot the computer.
 
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davenn said:
Tis dark here at the moment ... will post a pic in the new day
OK a couple of images
I have drawn a parallel trace beside the crack. Note the crack is a single crack ... there is no splaying out of cracks as seen in post #24
and also obvious, there is no shattering. I have looked very closely and cannot identify any impact site.

First image is the left hand side of the crack (out towards the centre of the windscreen
where my trace turns black is where it continues into the next pic.
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image #2
right side of the crack. it continues right to the rubber window seal. you can see that this section of the crack is just a very smooth
"S" shape

IMAG0627sm.jpg
Dave
 

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That's a front screen so most likely it a laminated screen which behaves very differently to toughened glass. Did the crack start at the edge? If so it could be edge damage caused before screen even fitted to the car.
 
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davenn said:
I have drawn a parallel trace beside the crack. Note the crack is a single crack ... there is no splaying out of cracks as seen in post #24 ...

Cracks at inspection label.jpg


Some of these lines may be crinkles in the label, but others look suspiciously line small cracks in the windshield. If they are, did the major crack occur shortly after the inspection sticker was applied? Could the mechanic have been a wee bit ham-handed?
 

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Asymptotic said:
Some of these lines may be crinkles in the label, but others look suspiciously line small cracks in the windshield.
Follow the paralleled white line that I drew on the image just below the crack ... that is the ONLY crack in the glass ... a single clean curved crack
That label has been on since the car was manufactured 5-5.5 yrs ago the cracks in it is because of the hot Aussie summers often exceeding 40C

To the left of this nice smooth curved section is the more meandering crack that expands in little bursts every few days or so
that is shown in the first image in my previous postDave
 
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As @CWatters mentioned, the front windshield is usually made from a different process than other car windows. The front windshield is usually not tempered, and instead made from laminated glass. Laminated glass is made by sandwiching plastic in between two sheets of non-tempered glass.

There's good reason for that. If the front windshield was tempered glass and did shatter, it would heavily obstruct the view in front of the driver. Therefore, laminated glass makes the better choice for this window (or windshield). When it does crack, the cracks are typically isolated, clean cracks rather than the spiderweb pattern of tempered glass. 'Makes it much easier to see through when cracks happen. Additionally, any debris that hits the windshield might only break the outer layer (of the laminated glass) and not puncture through the window and hit the driver who is in control of the vehicle.
 
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collinsmark said:
The front windshield is usually not tempered, and instead made from laminated glass. Laminated glass is made by sandwiching plastic in between two sheets of non-tempered glass.

yup, that appears to be the way these days ... but it wasn't always like that ..
collinsmark said:
There's good reason for that. If the front windshield was tempered glass and did shatter, it would heavily obstruct the view in front of the driver.

and I have been in that situation a few times in years gone by ... down the road at 100km/h and boom, zero visibility ... not fun!
 
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