Understand Faraday's Law and Lenz' Law

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The discussion revolves around understanding Faraday's Law and Lenz's Law, particularly in the context of an incomplete ring in a changing magnetic field. Participants are exploring how to analyze the induced electromotive force (emf) in such a scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning how the presence of a gap in the ring affects the analysis of induced emf, with some suggesting that the gap does not influence the induced emf but does affect current flow. Others are considering the implications of applying Lenz's Law to an incomplete loop.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored regarding the relationship between the gap in the ring and the induced emf. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of induced emf and its calculation, while others are still seeking clarification on specific points.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of analyzing an incomplete circuit and the implications of Faraday's Law and Lenz's Law in this context. There is an emphasis on understanding the definitions and assumptions related to induced emf.

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Homework Statement
1. Is Lenz's law applied only when there is a closed loop?
2. When a ring in a changing magnetic field is not complete (i.e. open circuit with a small gap), how to analyze the emf of the ring?
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2. When a ring in a changing magnetic field is not complete (i.e. open circuit with a small gap), how to analyze the emf of the ring?
According to the general form of Faraday's law, ## \oint \vec{E} \cdot d \vec{s} = -\frac{d \Phi}{dt} ##, I deduce that although it is not a closed loop, there is still emf within the incomplete ring conductor. How can I derive the emf of this ring?
 
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The presence or absence of a gap does not affect the induced emf around the ring. It does affect whether there is a current in the ring.
 
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christang_1023 said:
Problem Statement
1. Is Lenz's law applied only when there is a closed loop?
2. When a ring in a changing magnetic field is not complete (i.e. open circuit with a small gap), how to analyze the emf of the ring?
Relevant Equations
Shown below

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Above is an example figure.

2. When a ring in a changing magnetic field is not complete (i.e. open circuit with a small gap), how to analyze the emf of the ring?
According to the general form of Faraday's law, ## \oint \vec{E} \cdot d \vec{s} = -\frac{d \Phi}{dt} ##, I deduce that although it is not a closed loop, there is still emf within the incomplete ring conductor. How can I derive the emf of this ring?
As you say, for a closed, finite-R ring the E field and emf (- to +) are in same direction as the current, which enables you to determine the direction of the emf by Lenz's law.

For a non-existing ring the emf is still in the same direction so you can pretend the ring is solid, the use Lez's law.

The emf is ∫E dl, the integral of the E field over the ring perimeter. If the E field were electrostatic (as in a resistor in a battery-resistor circuit) the potential difference or voltage (- to +) would be the NEGATIVE of ∫E dl.
 
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jtbell said:
The presence or absence of a gap does not affect the induced emf around the ring.
Note that here, "induced emf" refers specifically to the emf that is induced by the changing B field via Faraday's Law. Depending on the situation, this might not be the only emf around the ring.
 

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