Understanding 1/f(x) of Graphs with No Equation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of taking the reciprocal of a function represented graphically, specifically the function denoted as f(x). Participants explore the implications of this operation without a defined equation for the graph.

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  • Participants discuss methods to visualize the reciprocal of the function, with some suggesting flipping axes and others proposing to find specific points on the graph to calculate their reciprocals. There is also a side discussion about a separate equation and its roots, questioning how to prove certain properties for all values of k.

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There is an active exploration of the concept of reciprocals in the context of a graph, with participants providing different perspectives and methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding how to approach the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to visualize or calculate the reciprocal.

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Participants are working with a graph that lacks a specific equation, which raises questions about how to accurately interpret and manipulate the function represented. Additionally, there is a separate mathematical problem regarding the real roots of a quadratic equation that is being discussed concurrently.

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Hi,

I have a graph of a function, but it has no specific equation, just a drawing, denoted by f(x). The question asks me to do the 1/f(x) of that graph. What does that mean?

Thanks in advance.
 
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The easiest way to get this is to flip the x and y axes around.

So, you could draw an imaginary line (like a dashed line) along the x-y line (45 degrees from the x-axis in quadrant 1 going through the origin).

Then, take the lines under the dashed line, draw them on top like they'd be seen in a mirror. The lines on the top go to the bottom.
 


blather said:
The easiest way to get this is to flip the x and y axes around.

So, you could draw an imaginary line (like a dashed line) along the x-y line (45 degrees from the x-axis in quadrant 1 going through the origin).

Then, take the lines under the dashed line, draw them on top like they'd be seen in a mirror. The lines on the top go to the bottom.

That, to me, sounds like a method to graph the inverse of f(x). I think what he's looking for, if he hasn't misinterpreted f-1(x) as 1/f(x), is the reciprocal of f(x).

If you're looking for the inverse, ProPM, the method above will do. If you're looking for the reciprocal, the best method I can think of is to find points of f(x) on the graph you're given and find the reciprocal of those points, and plot them as (x0, 1/f(x0)).
 


Oh, yes, I want the reciprocal. So to find the inverse, I simply do, for my attachment for example, f(x): when x = 2 and y =2, when x = 2, y = 0.5?

And, if you wouldn't mind, there's this question here I need help with:

Show that the equation (k-1)x2 + 2x - (k-3) = 0 has real roots for all values of k.

This is what I did:

b2- 4ac > 0
4 - 4(k-1)(-k+3) = 0
4 + 4k2 - 16k + 12 = 0
4k2 - 16k + 16 = 0

If we solve, we get a real answer, 2 in this case.

But how can I prove it is true for all values of k.

I hope I am not bothering you guys,

Thanks,
Pro PM
 

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ProPM said:
Hi,

I have a graph of a function, but it has no specific equation, just a drawing, denoted by f(x). The question asks me to do the 1/f(x) of that graph. What does that mean?

Thanks in advance.
If you can measure (approximately) some of the (x,y) positions on a piece of graph paper, you can get the graph of y = 1/f(x) (approximately). For example, on the y = f(x) curve if at some value of x we have y = 3, then at that same x but on the y = 1/f(x) curve we would have y = 1/3. In other words, if f(x) = 3 then 1/f(x) = 1/3, etc. That's all!

RGV
 


ProPM said:
...
And, if you wouldn't mind, there's this question here I need help with:

Show that the equation (k-1)x2 + 2x - (k-3) = 0 has real roots for all values of k.

This is what I did:

b2- 4ac > 0
4 - 4(k-1)(-k+3) = 0
4 + 4k2 - 16k + 12 = 0
4k2 - 16k + 16 = 0

If we solve, we get a real answer, 2 in this case.

But how can I prove it is true for all values of k.

I hope I am not bothering you guys,

Thanks,
Pro PM
4 - 4(k-1)(-k+3)
= 4( k2 -4k +4)
= 4(k-2)2

And what can you say about (k-2)2 ?
 


That no matter if k is inputted as negative or positive, if it is being squared, it will always be outputted as positive?
 


ProPM said:
That no matter if k is inputted as negative or positive, if it is being squared, it will always be outputted as positive?

Or zero. But the square root of 0 is defined as well.
 


Wow, great. Thanks a lot guys! When I grow up I want to be just like you :-p
 
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ProPM said:
That no matter if k is inputted as negative or positive, if it is being squared, it will always be outputted as positive?
Isn't (k-2)2 ≥ 0 for all k?

You can also say that [tex]\sqrt{4 - 4(k-1)(-k+3)} = \sqrt{4(k-2)^2}=2\sqrt{(k-2)^2}=2|k-2| \ge 0[/tex] for all k.
 

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