Understanding and Utilizing a Level Generator for Scientists

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The discussion revolves around understanding a level generator purchased from a surplus store, with participants seeking to clarify its functions, applications, and testing methods. The conversation includes exploratory reasoning about the device's purpose and potential uses in communication networks.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the level generator's purpose and seeks simple explanations regarding its functions and applications.
  • Another participant suggests it might be an adjustable DC power supply, while others propose it could be an audio signal generator.
  • Information about the manufacturer Wandel & Goltermann and its acquisition by JDSU is shared, along with a description of a modern equivalent model that is used for testing communication networks.
  • A later reply describes the device as a synthesized sweep signal generator with multiple outputs, mentioning its potential frequency range and applications in analyzing filters and transmission lines.
  • One participant speculates that the device may be outdated for current communication networks, possibly explaining its low purchase price.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact nature of the level generator, with multiple competing views on its potential functions and applications remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the device due to the absence of a user manual and the varying interpretations of its capabilities based on visual inspection and anecdotal information.

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Hello,

being attracted by old lab instrumentation ( the more switch, led, displays and knobs, the better ) I purchased for approx 20$ a level generator ( W & G PS something ) from a surplus store. The equipment is without user manual.

Fact is, I don't have any idea about what I bought !

I tried to use search internet in order to find some info but with poor results.

Can someone explain in very simple terms what this ( heavy ) equipment does ? What are the typical applications ? How can I test it ? Where can I find some more info ?

Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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ChillingSP said:
Hello,

being attracted by old lab instrumentation ( the more switch, led, displays and knobs, the better ) I purchased for approx 20$ a level generator ( W & G PS something ) from a surplus store. The equipment is without user manual.

Fact is, I don't have any idea about what I bought !

I tried to use search internet in order to find some info but with poor results.

Can someone explain in very simple terms what this ( heavy ) equipment does ? What are the typical applications ? How can I test it ? Where can I find some more info ?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Sounds kind of like an adjustable DC power supply, but it could be something else. Can you post some pictures? (upload them as JPG attachments)
 
Could also be an audio signal generator? post a pic...
 
berkeman said:
Sounds kind of like an adjustable DC power supply, but it could be something else. Can you post some pictures? (upload them as JPG attachments)

Tomorrow I will take some pictures.

In the meantime I discovered that the company who manufactured the equipment ( Wandel & Goltermann ) was acquired from another company called JDSU.
They still produce a level generator, but in portable form. The equipment I have instead is table-top ( bulky and heavy and looking quite complex ).

This is the description of the model they currently produce. It seems it's used for testing communications network. But since I'm no expert , this sound pretty obscure:"

The PS-33A is a signal source for testing the characteristics of voice transmission systems up to 2 MHz.
Highlights

* Handheld instrument with high-performance synthesizer technology for high resolution, stability, and accuracy.
* Balanced and unbalanced generator outputs with common standard impedances.
* Battery operation up to eight hours.

Applications

* Qualification of copper lines up to 2 MHz (with receiver SPM-33A).
* Maintenance of FDM transmission systems with up to 300 voice channels.
* All applications requiring an accurate and stable low distortion sine wave signal.

Key Features

* Frequency range of 50 Hz to 2 MHz.
* Wide output level range variable by 75 dB.
* High resolution settings of 1 Hz and 0.1 MHz. "

Can anyone translate in " simple " terms ?
 
Here are the images.

I think it could be a special kind of signal generator used in the communication networks. Perhaps the networks of new generation are different and so these equipment has no purpose anymore ( it could be the reason why I could get it for that cheap price ) ?
 

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That's basically a synthesized sweep signal generator with multiple outputs with different output impedances that are often used in communication.

It's hard to say from the pic what the frequency range is, but it should work up to 2 MHz on the black pin connectors, and perhaps higher on the BNC connector.

When powered up, you should be able to type a frequency of the signal you want, and its amplitude. Or, in sweep mode, the start and stop frequency, and sweep time.

You could probably connect the x-axis to an oscilloscope (in xy mode) and you will have a nice scalar network analyzer to analyze filters, transmission lines, or amplifiers.
 
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