Understanding Chemical Formulas: How to Write Them for General Chemistry

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The discussion revolves around how to write chemical formulas based on the names of compounds, focusing on general chemistry concepts. Participants seek clarification on the rules and methods for constructing these formulas, including examples and specific cases.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for guidance on writing the chemical formula for calcium hydrogen carbonate.
  • Another participant suggests writing the formula as CaHCO3 and emphasizes the importance of placing cations first in the formula.
  • A different participant explains the crisscross method for determining the formula based on the charges of cations and anions, providing examples such as Ca(HCO3)2 and Fe(ClO4)3.
  • Another participant introduces more complex examples, including the formula for hexacyanoferrate and its reaction with Fe2+.
  • One participant questions how to know the charges of cations and anions, suggesting that they may need to look them up.
  • Another participant advises memorization of ion charges and encourages ongoing study of these ions.
  • A high school student shares their struggle with writing formulas for magnesium and oxygen, and lead (II) and chlorine, seeking confirmation of their answers.
  • A participant reminds the student to show their work before receiving help, as per forum rules.
  • Another participant points out that the question may be asking for the formulas of elements rather than their reaction products, suggesting clarification with the teacher.
  • One participant expresses confusion about whether to memorize valencies or if there is a method to deduce them, while another emphasizes the importance of the periodic table.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the writing of chemical formulas, with some providing methods and examples while others seek clarification. There is no consensus on the best approach to learning or memorizing the necessary information.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the need to understand charges on ions, which may depend on familiarity with the periodic table and specific ion characteristics. There are also indications of confusion regarding the distinction between writing formulas for elements and compounds.

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Hello

I am currently enrolled in General Chem. We are learning how to write chemical formulas. Can someone please explain to me how you write a chemical formula given the name of the compound? Like for example, how would you write the chemical formula for calcium hydrogen carbonate?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks
 
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courtrigrad said:
Can someone please explain to me how you write a chemical formula given the name of the compound? Like for example, how would you write the chemical formula for calcium hydrogen carbonate?

Just write it the way you hear it.
CaHCO_3

Just remember to write the cations (positive ion) first. Writing something like CO_3HCa would probably be marked incorrect by your instructor.
 
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take the charge on the cation, say Ca^+^2 and then the charge on the anion hydrogen carbonate HCO_3^- and you will criss cross the charges to form Ca(HCO_3)_2

other examples:

Fe^+^3 and ClO_4^- forms Fe(ClO_4)_3

Ca^+^2 and Cl^- forms CaCl_2
 
Some more complex examples will come from me:

Ca_3(PO_4)_2 is made from Ca^{2+} and (PO_4)^{3-}.

There are some ions like hexacyanoferrate(3-), a.k.a. [Fe(CN)_6]^{3-}. If you mix this solution with an Fe^{2+} solution, you'll get the famous "Berlin Blue". This compound is, therefore, Fe_3[Fe(CN)_6]_2

Well, it is possible that my reply is too complex for your needs, but you might benefit this message later.
 
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How do you know the charges of the cations and anions? Do you have to look them up?
 
It is somewhat close to what you're implying, just be patient and go on studying these ions to "memorize" them.
 
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Hi,

I'm in HS Chemistry and am working on a review and didn't bring my book home...I'm trying to make sure I'm doing this right. I need to write the correct formula for quite a few elements. One example is for:

a. magnesium and oxygen

b. lead (II) and clorine

Can anyone tell me how to write the formula?

Thanks
 
1. Next time you've got a question, please start a new thread rather than posting in an older one. Also, next time, a question like this would belong in the Homework & Coursework subforum.

2. By the rules of this forum, we can not help you unless you first show us your effort. You say you want to make sure you are doing this right. Show us what you've done so far, and we'll tell you how you're doing and help you if you are getting stuck on something.

3. Make sure you write down the original question EXACTLY as it was given to you. What you've written here has errors in it, but that's possibly because you're rewriting it from memory rather than copying down exactly what was given to you.
 
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Courswork question

Hi,

Sorry, I am not sure how this works. Since you said next time I'm assuming that it is ok to continue here...if not I'll start a new thread.

The question is written:

1. Write the correct formula for the following (a-f)

a. magnesium & oxygen My answer is Mg6O2

b. calcium & nitrogen My answer is CA5N2

Thanks,
 
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Your answers are not correct. You need to know the charges on the individual ions, and then ensure that when they form a compound together that the charge on the compound is zero.

For 1. Do you know the charges on Mg and O ions?
 
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No, I don't know. We just have to look at the periodic table and then write the formula for magnesium & oxygen and so on.
 
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As stated, the question is only asking for the formulas for the elements and not their reaction products - but it's funny that the elements be paired up that way. It's not clear, however, if the question does want you to write down the formula for the reaction product. We might be able to guess better if you wrote down parts c,d,e,and f as well.

Do you understand the difference between writing the formula for the elements separately and writing the formula for the compound they will form when they react with each other?

It's best to clarify with the teacher what the question really wants.
 
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I can ask my teacher tomorrow. I need to write the formula for the compound they will form.
a. magnesium & oxygen
b. lead (II) & chlorine
c. calcium & nitrogen
d. lithium & sulfur
e. sodium & sulfate
f. barium & phospate
 
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I m sorry but i m new to this forum; how do i ask a question? my guess is tat the space i m using is for posting replies and not asking questions so my apologies ut i need help
 
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Do I have to "memorize" the valencies, variable valencies and the valencies of common radicals or is there a "method' of deducting thoese?
 
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rooparul said:
Do I have to "memorize" the valencies, variable valencies and the valencies of common radicals or is there a "method' of deducting thoese?



The periodic table is your best friend!
 
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rooparul said:
I m sorry but i m new to this forum; how do i ask a question? my guess is tat the space i m using is for posting replies and not asking questions so my apologies ut i need help
Correct.

If your question is related to standard textbook chemistry or is from assigned coursework/homework, you must start a new thread in the Other Sciences sub-forum of the Homework & Coursework forum (near the top of the main forum page). To start a thread, enter the desired forum, and above the list of threads, you will see a button titled "New Topic" (or New Thread) - click that. If you are starting a thread under the Homework forum, you will see a template appear when you click the 'New Topic' button. Use this template to correctly format your post.
 
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gravenewworld said:
The periodic table is your best friend!

Then I am not sure how to read valencies from there i can see only rows and columns with their atomic numbers
 

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