Understanding Convolution: h(t) & x(t) w/ x(t)=u(t-1)

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I'm having trouble understanding convolution. In particular, in convolving h(t) and x(t), I have no idea what to do when x(t) = u(t-1). So for example, if h(t) = exp(-at)u(t) an x(t) = u(t-1). Is this even the right set up? I don't think it is.

[tex]\int_o^t e^{-a(t-T)}u(t-1)dT[/tex]

the other idea I had was

[tex]\int_1^t e^{-a(t-T)}u(t)dT[/tex]

but I doubt this too.
Help?
 
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lemme just be clear about your notation. Is this right?

[tex]x(t) = u(t-1)[/tex]

where [itex]u(t)[/itex] is the unit step function, ie:

[tex] u(x) = \left \lbracket<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> 0 & \mbox{if } x<0 \\<br /> 1 & \mbox{if } x \geq 0 \\<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right.[/tex]

and [tex]h(t) = e^{-at}u(t)[/tex].

the convolution of x and h, denoted [itex]x \ast h[/itex], is given by,
[tex](x \ast h)(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}x(T)h(t - T)dT[/tex]

Also, convolution is commutative so [itex]x \ast h = h \ast x[/itex]. Therefore choose the one that makes your calculation easier. From your post it looks like you chose [itex]x \ast h[/itex]

your first goal is to come up with the correct expressions for

[tex]h(t - T) = \ ?? [/itex]<br /> [tex]x(T) = \ ??[/tex][/tex]
 
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[tex]h(t - T) = e^{-a(t-T)}[/tex]
[tex]x(T) = u(T-1)[/tex]

Maybe?
 
In your first post you said [itex]h(t) = e^{-at}u(t)[/itex]. What happened to [itex]u[/itex] in [itex]h(t-T)[/itex]?

Thats the correct expression for x(T).

What's [itex]u(t)[/itex]? Is it the unit step function?
 
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yeah it is, and that's what's catching me a little i think; is the u(t) in the h(t) related to the u(t) which x(t) is equal to?
 
yes. recall from algebra that the graph of [itex]u(t-1)[/itex] is the graph of [itex]u(t)[/itex] shifted to the right 1 unit.

If [itex]f,g,[/itex] and [itex]h[/itex] are functions such that [itex]f(t) = g(t)h(t)[/itex], and [itex]a[/itex] is a real number, then [itex]f(t-a) = g(t-a)h(t-a)[/itex]. Use this to come up with an expression for [itex]h(t-T)[/itex].
 
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I feel like a n00bie.

So
[tex]h(t - T) = e^{-a(t-1)}[/tex]?
 
[tex]h(t) = e^{-at}u(t)[/tex]

to get [itex]h(t-T)[/itex] replace all instances of [itex]t[/itex] with [itex]t-T[/itex]
 
so h(t-T):

[tex]h(t-T) = e^{-a(t-T)}u(t-T)}[/tex]

forgive me its late and I'm having a really hard time understanding this.
 
yes :smile:

now you can substitute the expresions for [itex]x(T)[/itex] and [itex]h(t-T)[/itex] in the convolution integral.
 
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