Understanding Cyclotron Oscillations Frequency

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the frequency of oscillations in a cyclotron, specifically addressing the relationship between the frequency at which the voltages of the dees are switched and the frequency of particle revolutions. Participants explore the implications of voltage switching on particle motion and oscillation frequency.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the frequency of oscillation remains the same as the frequency of the particles, despite the voltage difference being switched twice during one revolution.
  • Another participant explains that the dees must switch polarity as particles cross from one to the other, indicating a relationship between the dees' voltage and particle acceleration.
  • A further participant expresses confusion about how the frequency of oscillation can be the same as the particle frequency if the voltages are reversed twice in one revolution.
  • One participant inquires about the frequency of sign changes in the x- and y-components of the electron's velocity vector during a full period.
  • Another participant suggests a misunderstanding regarding the definition of the frequency of oscillation, linking it to the frequency of voltage reversal rather than the particle's revolution frequency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the frequency of oscillation and the frequency of particle revolutions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are potential limitations in understanding the definitions of frequency in this context, as well as the implications of voltage switching on particle dynamics, which are not fully clarified in the discussion.

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I am having trouble making sense of the frequency of oscillations for a cyclotron. What I don't understand is, if a the voltage difference of the two dees is switched twice ( each time the particles are about to enter them), then why is the frequency of oscillation the same as the frequency at which the particle moves through the cyclotron. To me it seems that the frequency of oscillation should be twice the frequency of the particles but obviously that is not the case.
 
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When the particles (say electrons) cross from the left Dee to the right, then the left Dee has to be negative and the right positive.
1/2 turn later the particles cross from the right to the left. To be accelerated, the right has to be negative and the left positive, i.e. the exact opposite.
 
I get that but if the dees change signs twice after one revolution of a particle then how is the frequency of oscillation of the dees the same as the frequency of the particles moving through one revolution because it seems like it would be be twice that value since the voltage switches twice in one particle revolution.
 
So how often do the x- and y-components of the electron's velocity vector change sign during one full period?
 
Maybe I am misunderstanding what the frequency of osscilation of the cyclotron is but what I thought that was referring to was the frequency at which the voltages of the dees are reversed. What I don't get is how the frequency of a particle circulating in a cyclotron is the same as the frequency of osscilation of that cyclotron (times the dees voltages are reversed per unit time) because the voltages are switched twice in the time it takes a particle to make one revolution.
 

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