Understanding electronic configuration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the electronic configuration of elements, specifically calcium. Participants explore different notations for representing electronic configurations and the significance of subshell filling in relation to chemical properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the electronic configuration of calcium can be represented as either 2, 8, 8, 2 or as $$1s^22s^22p^63s^23p^64s^2$$.
  • Others argue that the second notation is preferred because it provides more detailed information about subshell filling, which is important for understanding chemical properties.
  • One participant notes that while the first notation is correct in terms of electron count per shell, the filling of subshells is more significant for chemical behavior.
  • There is mention of the Aufbau principle and the Madelung ordering principle, with a note that the latter has exceptions in transition metals.
  • Participants discuss the importance of valence electrons and how their orbital configuration affects atomic spectra and chemical reactivity.
  • One participant emphasizes that the rules governing electronic configurations are based on observed reality rather than arbitrary constructs.
  • A participant critiques a personal notation that does not conform to established conventions, highlighting the importance of clear communication in scientific notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the validity of both notations for electronic configuration, but there is a lack of consensus on the importance of subshell filling versus simple shell counting. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the significance of these different representations.

Contextual Notes

There are references to principles such as the Aufbau principle and the Madelung ordering principle, but the discussion does not fully resolve the implications of these principles or their exceptions.

Chijioke
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Homework Statement
How is electronic configuration an element shown?
Relevant Equations
Aufbau Principle
I don't really understand this electronic configuration of a thing. Suppose I want show the electronic configuration of calcium, how do I show it? Is like this
  1. 2, 8, 8, 2 or
  2. $$1s^22s^22p^63s^23p^64s^2$$
 
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#2 is the winner!
 
chemisttree said:
#2 is the winner!
What then do we call #1?
 
I don't think it has a special name. Yes, it is a correct number of electrons on each shell, but it is filling of subshells that is much more important for chemical properties. That's why we prefer #2, as it tells as much more.

And yes, thanks to Aufbau principle they are to some degree equivalent.
 
Borek said:
I don't think it has a special name. Yes, it is a correct number of electrons on each shell, but it is filling of subshells that is much more important for chemical properties. That's why we prefer #2, as it tells as much more.

And yes, thanks to Aufbau principle they are to some degree equivalent.
Why then is the filling of subshell much more important for chemical properties?
 
You must represent it as in 2. for generality. The Madelung ordering principle has exceptions within the transition metals.
 
Chijioke said:
Why then is the filling of subshell much more important for chemical properties?
Because it tells you which orbitals the valence electrons are in, and they are the most important electrons to understand things like the spectrum of atoms and chemical reactivity.
 
Chijioke said:
Why then is the filling of subshell much more important for chemical properties?

In a way the only answer you can get is: because that's the way it is.

We don't create these rules, we observe reality and we try to understand and describe it. Sometimes we can - after creating a model of how something works - try to rationalize observed effects and rules and explain them in terms of for example energies involved, but it is not that these rationalizations are the "real" thing. The only real thing is - no pun intended - the observed reality.
 
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Thatdburownnotationknownonly2u

That would be your own notation known only to you. We also have syntax rules for language and agreed upon spellings for words. It conveys better information in a clearer manner.
 
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