Understanding First Order Linear Differential Equations: Solving and Simplifying

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The discussion revolves around the confusion in solving first-order linear differential equations, specifically regarding the steps in the solution process. Participants express uncertainty about the disappearance of terms and the transition from derivatives to integrals, particularly how to handle the integrating factor and the product rule. Clarifications are provided on the necessity of rearranging the equation into standard form and the importance of integration rather than differentiation at certain steps. The conversation highlights the need for a clear understanding of the algebraic manipulations involved in the process. Overall, the thread emphasizes the complexities of solving these equations and the significance of each step in the solution.
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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand in step one why the three in the numerator disappears. I also don't understand why dy/dx becomes d/dx. the book just says left side is d/dx(v*y), a lot of help that is. how do you go to two fractions with x^3 and x^4 to one fraction with x^3 in the numerator.

In step 3 they integrate both sides, but I don't see any integration of the left side. I have a feeling that they are moving the d/dx to the right side, if so, what happens to the d?
 
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It's a first-order linear ODE, and usually, the method of solving this is by multiplying throughout by an integrating factor.
 
I know that but i still don't understand how they get from steps 1 to 2 to 3
 
I confirm. It's exactly the same method, except that some of the intermediary steps have been omitted from your example.

You should re-arrange the linear ODE into its standard form. Then, find the integrating factor.
 
well i don't know what those intermediary steps are. if i did i wouldn't have posted the question.
 
The solution will reveal itself if you work it out and you will see the corresponding lines from your example.

To standardize your linear ODE, multiply by x^3:
\frac{dy}{dx}+\left(\frac{-3}{x}\right)y=x Can you continue from here?
 
I don't see how that step is legal. number two, I don't see how that gets me from step 1 to step 2.
 
robertjford80 said:
I know that
I thought you knew how to solve a first-order linear ODE.

Continuing from my post #6. From the standardized linear ODE form:
P(x)=\frac{-3}{x}<br /> \\Q(x)=x
The integrating factor:
\mu (x)=e^{\int P(x).dx}=\frac{1}{x^3}
\frac{d(\mu y)}{dx}=\mu Q
\frac{d(\frac{1}{x^3} y)}{dx}= \frac{1}{x^2}\; ...\;Step\;2
Steps 3 and 4 are obvious.
 
robertjford80 said:

Homework Statement



Screenshot2012-05-15at42824PM.png



The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand in step one why the three in the numerator disappears. I also don't understand why dy/dx becomes d/dx. the book just says left side is d/dx(v*y), a lot of help that is. how do you go to two fractions with x^3 and x^4 to one fraction with x^3 in the numerator.

In step 3 they integrate both sides, but I don't see any integration of the left side. I have a feeling that they are moving the d/dx to the right side, if so, what happens to the d?

There's nothing omitted from the first step. It's simply a fact that if you take the derivative of the left hand side of the second equation, you get the left hand side of the first equation. Take the derivative (using the product rule) to confirm this.
 
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I'm having trouble taking the derivative of

\frac{1}{x^3} - \frac{3}{x^4}y

I get

\frac{dy}{dx}\big(\frac{x-3}{x^4}\big)y

If I take the derivative of that I'm not going to get the next step in the book, so I must be doing something wrong.
 
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robertjford80 said:
I'm having trouble taking the derivative of

\frac{1}{x^3} - \frac{3}{x^4}y
Well, that's your problem- you do NOT take the derivative of that. You want to integrate it.

I get

\frac{dy}{dx}\big(\frac{x-3}{x^3}\big)y

If I take the derivative of that I'm not going to get the next step in the book, so I must be doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]
The derivative of y/x^3, using the quotient rule, is
\frac{y&#039;x^3- y(3x^2)}{(x^3)^2}= \frac{y&#039;}{x^3}- \frac{3y}{x^4}[/quit]<br /> which is exactly what you want.
 
  • #12
i realize this is basic algebra but I don't see to get

\frac{y}{x^3}

If you let y = 2 and x = 2 you get

\frac{1}{x^3} - \frac{3y}{x^4}

\frac{2}{16} - \frac{3*2}{16} = \frac{-2}{8}


whereas with

\frac{y}{x^3}

if you let y = 2 and x = 2 you get

\frac{2}{8}


There's something about the negative sign that I'm missing.
 

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