Understanding Fuel Pump Performance: Factors, Measurements, and Potential Risks

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the performance of fuel pumps in electronic fuel injection (EFI) systems, specifically examining the factors that influence fuel delivery, such as maximum pressure and free flow rate. Participants explore the implications of using pumps with varying power levels and their effects on the fuel system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the factors that influence fuel pumping in EFI systems, particularly the meanings of maximum pressure and free flow rate, and whether a pump can be too powerful for a system.
  • Another participant emphasizes the practical requirements for fuel pressure and flow rate, noting the importance of effective fuel atomization and the role of excess pressure relief valves in regulating fuel pressure.
  • A participant uses an analogy involving water flow to explain the relationship between pressure and flow rate, indicating that maximum pressure occurs at zero flow rate and that systems typically operate between these two extremes.
  • There is a mention of the mechanical components of fuel pumps, specifically distinguishing between pusher and puller pumps, although details are limited.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the engineering aspects of fuel pump performance, with some focusing on practical implications while others delve into technical details. No consensus is reached on the optimal characteristics of fuel pumps for specific systems.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed engineering analysis and the dependence on specific vehicle configurations, which may affect the applicability of general statements made in the discussion.

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I am not talking about the mechanics of them, I am talking about what factors influence how much fuel they pump in a given system(EFI return style) at a given time. What do numbers such as maximum pressure and free flow rate mean? Can you have a pump that is too powerful for a system like say if you had a factor of safety of 4:1? Would this just require more power from the electrical system or can it actually be bad for the fuel system itself?
 
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I don't know much about the engineering side of you questions, but as far as practicality goes, you only need enough fuel pressure to facilitate an effective fuel atomization at the injector nozzles and enough flow rate to exceed peak fuel consumption. All fuel systems include a excess pressure relief valve which regulates the pressure in the fuel rail, many adjusted automatically through engine vacuum. Some vehicles such as many Volkswagon turbo engine gasoline vehicles have an electric feed pump in the tank with a mechanical high-pressure pump driven by the engine's camshaft.
 
Turn on a water tap/faucet and experiment by trying to stop the water with your thumb. The harder you press with your thumb the higher the pressure and the lower the flow rate.

The free flow rate is the flow rate at zero pressure (nothing restricting the flow).

Max pressure usually occurs at zero flow rate (maximum restriction).

Most systems operate somewhere between these two points. Pump suppliers usually supply a graph of pressure vs flow rate.
 
It consists of a rubber diaphragm that is sandwiched between two halves of the housing and actuated by some sort of arm. More about that later, but for now we must distinguish between pusher and puller pumps.
 

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