Understanding HCP Crystal Structure: Confusion with Coordinates of Center Atom

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The discussion centers on the confusion regarding the coordinates of the center atom in a hexagonal close-packed (HCP) crystal structure. The coordinates (1/3, 2/3, 1/2) for the center atom are clarified through the understanding of the unit cell's geometry and the positioning of the origin. The triangle's center is determined using trigonometric principles, leading to the coordinates derived from the dimensions of the equilateral triangle formed by the atoms. A participant notes a different convention for the unit cell, resulting in coordinates of (2/3, 1/3, 1/2), but acknowledges that this is merely a matter of convention. Overall, the discussion resolves the initial confusion about the coordinates by explaining the geometric relationships within the unit cell.
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Considering only the 4 lower-right atoms (one unit cell), I'm somewhat confused as to why the coordinates for the center atom (b) is (1/3, 2/3, 1/2) with respect to (a1, a2, c).

c is pretty self explanatory, but I don't quite get the other 2. I think one of my main confusions is where the origin is being taken when considering just one unit cell.

[PLAIN]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2272/hexagonalclosepackedstr.gif

Thanks
 
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The triangle drawn has side length a. From simple trigonometry you can find that the center of an equilateral triangle is 1/3 of the way from a side along the perpendicular. The total height is a*cos(30). Then x and y give you the 2/3*a and 1/3*a you are looking for. Actually I chose the unit cell opposite to how you did. So mine is 2/3, 1/3, 1/2 instead of 1/3, 2/3, 1/2. But that's just convention.
 
That definitely cleared it up -- can't believe I didn't get it before. Thanks!
 
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