Understanding Hydrogen Selection Rules: Emission vs. Absorption and the p-Series

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the selection rules for hydrogen transitions, specifically focusing on the differences between emission and absorption processes, as well as the interpretation of a figure related to these concepts. Participants explore the implications of selection rules and the conditions under which certain transitions are observed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of arrow heads in a figure, suggesting that the selection rules permit transitions that may not be represented accurately in the image.
  • Another participant clarifies that the figure is intended for emission only, but acknowledges that absorption can occur under certain conditions, such as the presence of light at the correct frequency.
  • A participant proposes that reversing the arrows in the figure could represent absorption transitions, implying that all lines would then be valid.
  • It is noted that while absorption lines are theoretically possible, they may not be observable if hydrogen is in its ground state and light is shone on it.
  • One participant expresses relief at confirming the possibility of transitions as explained by the selection rules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that selection rules allow for certain transitions, but there is contention regarding the visibility of absorption lines and the conditions under which they can be observed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the figure and the specific transitions depicted.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific conditions of the hydrogen state and the nature of the light source used for absorption. The discussion does not resolve the ambiguity in the figure's representation of transitions.

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Please see attachment. What are the arrow heads supposed to mean? Only emission is allowed and no absorption?
I mean, selection rules allow Δl=±1. But the figure is saying otherwise.

I also read in another book, that the only series observed in absorption is that to the ground state, where it is called the p-series.

Please explain, I am kind of lost in figures and resources.
 

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The image is drawn for emission only - absorption is possible, too, if you have some source of light. The combination of excited atoms plus light of the right frequency for a transition can be rare, however.
 
But if I reversed the arrows in this figure so that I aim to draw a figure of absorption, all drawn lines will be possible, no?
(i.e, if I reversed the heads with tails of all arrows presented in the figure).
 
They are possible, but you won't see most absorption lines if you shine light on hydrogen in its ground state.
 
Ok, thanks, I just wanted to make sure of they were possible! As selection rules explain. Thanks again.
 

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