Graduate Understanding Killing Vector Equation Notation

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The discussion centers on the Killing vector equation, specifically the notation ##\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = 0##, where the parentheses indicate symmetrization of indices. Participants clarify that the correct interpretation involves ensuring proper index matching, particularly lowering indices when necessary. There is a consensus that the expression should reflect symmetrization correctly, leading to the form ##\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = \frac{1}{2} (\partial_{\mu} K_{\nu} + \partial_{\nu} K_{\mu}) - \Gamma^{\rho}_{\mu \nu} K_{\rho} = 0##. The conversation highlights common pitfalls in LaTeX formatting and index manipulation. Overall, the focus remains on accurately representing the symmetrized Killing vector equation.
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The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu K_{\nu}) = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?
Hi all,

The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu K_{\nu})} = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?

Moreover, I know that ##\nabla_\mu x^\nu = \partial_\mu x^\nu+ \Gamma_{\rho \mu}^\nu x^\rho##

So if the parentheses mean symmetric the Killing equation will read:

##\frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho##

Is this correct?
 
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You have mismatched curly braces that are breaking the Latex... you should be able to to edit the post to fix that, but of you are having trouble let me or any of the other mentors know and we can help.
 
I guess, you wanted to write ##\partial_{(\mu} K_{\nu)}## then it usually means "symmetrization", i.e., for 2nd-rank tensor components it means
$$A_{(\mu \nu)}=\frac{1}{2}(A_{\mu \nu}+A_{\nu \mu}).$$
 
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Summary:: The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?

Hi all,

The killing vector equation reads: ##\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = 0## What do the parenthesis mean explicitly?

Moreover, I know that ##\nabla_\mu x^\nu = \partial_\mu x^\nu+ \Gamma_{\rho \mu}^\nu x^\rho##
So if the parentheses mean symmetric the Killing equation will read:

##\frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho##

Is this correct?

No, it is not correct, you have an index mismatch since your ##\rho## appears twice as a covariant index. Because of this it cannot be the correct expression. The ##\rho## on the vector component should be lowered. In other words:
$$
\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = \frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho = 0.
$$
 
Orodruin said:
In other words:
$$
\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = \frac{1}{2} ( \partial_\mu k_\nu + \partial_\nu k_\mu) - \Gamma_{\nu \mu}^\rho k^\rho = 0.
$$
This doesn't seem correct either.
 
Well, isn't
$$\nabla_{\mu} K_{\nu}=\partial_{\mu} K_{\nu} - \Gamma^{\rho}_{\mu \nu} K_{\rho}$$
and then
$$\nabla_{(\mu} K_{\nu)} = \frac{1}{2} (\partial_{\mu} K_{\nu} + \partial_{\nu} K_{\mu}) -\Gamma^{\rho}_{\mu \nu} K_{\rho}?$$
So @Orodruin is right, except that he forgot to lower the index in the last term too :-).
 
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vanhees71 said:
except that he forgot to lower the index in the last term too :-).
The connection between brain and fingers sometimes does not work ... I blame copy-paste.
 
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