Understanding Leibniz's Rule: Use, Why & Examples

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The discussion centers around Leibniz's rule, particularly its applications, significance, and examples. Participants explore different interpretations and contexts in which the rule is used, including calculus and physics problems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a general explanation of Leibniz's rule, its uses, and examples.
  • Another participant questions which specific Leibniz rule is being referred to, mentioning differentiation of definite integrals and nth powers of products.
  • A participant specifically identifies the Leibniz integral rule as the focus of the discussion.
  • One reply suggests that the understanding of the rule may vary among individuals and encourages more specific questions regarding its application, such as in physics problems or calculus of variations.
  • A participant shares a real-life problem involving an integral expression and suggests using Leibniz's rule to differentiate it with respect to a variable.
  • Another participant recounts using the Leibniz integral rule to verify a solution involving a convolution integral, emphasizing the importance of the rule when the upper limit of integration depends on the variable of differentiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of Leibniz's rule and its applications, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on a singular understanding or application of the rule.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for specificity in questions about the rule, suggesting that its applications may differ based on context. There are also mentions of additional methods, such as Laplace transforms, which may not directly relate to the main focus of the discussion.

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Can anyone explain Leibniz's rule?

When would one use it and why?

Examples?
 
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Which Leibniz rule? How to differentiate a definite integral when the variable appears as limit of integration? How to differentiate the nth power of a product of functions?
 
Leibniz integral rule.
 
You might find a forum member with a pent-up enthusiasm for explaining the Leibniz integral rule. Failing at that, I suggest you ask a more specific question. After all, there are all sorts of treatments of the Leibniz integral rule on the web. What answers one persons "why?" may not satisify another. What do you want to see? a physics problem that uses it? the usual calculus of variations stuff? how to work tricky integrals with it?
 
glebovg said:
When would one use it and why?

Examples?

Oh man like all the time in math just doing regular stuff. Just a few days ago I ran into this real-life problem:

If:

k\int_c^d \frac{e^{b\sqrt{s^2-a^2}}}{\sqrt{s^2-s^2}}e^{sx}ds=I_0(a \sqrt{x^2-b^2})

then find:

k\int_c^d e^{b\sqrt{s^2-a^2}}e^{sx}ds

Now, look up Leibniz rule, then differentiate the first expression with respect to b, and find the solution to the second integral.
 
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glebovg said:
Can anyone explain Leibniz's rule?

When would one use it and why?

Examples?

The other day, I was reading a paper that claimed that

x(t)=x(0) \exp (at)+b\int_0^t \exp(a(t-\tau))\; u(\tau) d\tau

was a solution to

{{dx(t)}\over{dt}}=a\; x(t)+b\; u(t)

I wanted to quickly verify this and used the integral rule to check it. I also double checked it with a Laplace transform method, just for practice, but that's not relevant here.

The integral here is a convolution integral, and differentiating a convolution integral is one example where the rule comes in handy. Note that the derivative with respect to t can not just be moved into the integral without additional modifications because the upper limit depends on t. The Leibniz rule, let's you write the answer correctly and quickly. It does this by adding terms that depend on the derivatives of the limits.
 
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