Understanding Limits & Minimum in Spivak's Calculus

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The discussion centers on understanding the concept of limits and the use of minimum values in Spivak's Calculus, specifically in Chapter 5. The user struggles with the definition of delta (δ) in the context of the function f(x) = x² + x as x approaches a. The key takeaway is that δ1 is defined as min(1, ε/2/2|a| + 1) and δ2 as ε/2 to ensure both conditions |x² - a²| < ε/2 and |x - a| < ε/2 are satisfied simultaneously. This approach is crucial for establishing the limit rigorously.

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hi all,
like many here i have also picked up the spivak calculus text and run into some problems.
i am reading the fifth chapter which introduces 'limits' and i can't get my head around the idea of using minimum (the concept was introduced in the problems of the first chapter and it reappears in chapter 5 without any formal discussion about it). i haven't figured out how to approach it yet. i guess that's what i mean to ask here. i don't think i am making any sense. probably an example will help. this is from the book, towards the end of the chapter, consider:

f(x) = x^2 + x, and x approaches a,
according to the definition in the book, we have to find a \delta > 0 such that |x^2 + x - (a^2 + a)| < \epsilon
it then breaks down the function into x^2 and x, so that we need 2 \deltas
one for the x^2 and the other for x,
if 0 < |x - a| < \delta1, then |x^2 - a^2| < \epsilon/2
if 0 < |x - a| < \delta2, then |x - a| < \epsilon/2

now, for some reason i don't know,

\delta1 = min (1, \epsilon/2/2|a| + 1)
\delta2 = \epsilon/2

what is going on here?

this is a very confusing first post and i am very sorry about it. (imagine the confusion in my head :)) perhaps i can try to clarify my question after a few responses. thanks in advance!
 
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uak01 said:
hi all,
like many here i have also picked up the spivak calculus text and run into some problems.
i am reading the fifth chapter which introduces 'limits' and i can't get my head around the idea of using minimum (the concept was introduced in the problems of the first chapter and it reappears in chapter 5 without any formal discussion about it). i haven't figured out how to approach it yet. i guess that's what i mean to ask here. i don't think i am making any sense. probably an example will help. this is from the book, towards the end of the chapter, consider:

f(x) = x^2 + x, and x approaches a,
according to the definition in the book, we have to find a \delta > 0 such that |x^2 + x - (a^2 + a)| < \epsilon
it then breaks down the function into x^2 and x, so that we need 2 \deltas
one for the x^2 and the other for x,
if 0 < |x - a| < \delta1, then |x^2 - a^2| < \epsilon/2
if 0 < |x - a| < \delta2, then |x - a| < \epsilon/2

now, for some reason i don't know,

\delta1 = min (1, \epsilon/2/2|a| + 1)
\delta2 = \epsilon/2
Well, to have |x-a|&lt;\epsilon/2[/tex] you must take \delta = \epsilon/2 so the that |x-a|&amp;lt; \epsilon/2 and |x-a|&amp;lt; \delta are exactly the same! \delta_1= \epsilon/2<br /> |x^2- a^2|&amp;lt; \epsilon/2 is a little harder. |x^2- a^2|= |(x-a)(x+a)|= |x-a||x+a|. In order to have |x^2- a^2|= |x-a||x+a|&amp;lt; \epsilon/2 so we must have |x-a|&amp;lt; \epsilon/(2|x+a|) (remember we want to be able to write |x-a|&amp;lt; \delta so we solve for |x-a|). Of course, we need that number on the right to be a constant- not depend of a. We are talking about x close to a so suppose we take |x-a|&lt; 1 (I chose 1 just because it is easy). That means that -1&lt; x-a&lt; 1. Now add 2a to both sides. Then 2a-1&lt; x+ a&lt; 2a+ 1. For any a, 2|a|+1 is the smaller of those so we know that |x+a|&gt; 2|a|+1 and 1/|x+a|&lt; 1/(2a+1). and so |x-a|&amp;lt; (1/(2|a|+1))(\epsilon/2). Taking \delta_2= 1 guarentees that |x-a|&amp;lt; (1/(2|a|+1))(\epsilon/2).<br /> If we take \delta to be the smaller of those two, that is, take \delta1 = min (1, \epsilon/2/2|a| + 1) <b>both</b> of those are true so if |x-a|&amp;lt; \delta, <br /> |x^2+x-(a^2+a)|= |(x^2-a^2)+ (x-a)|\le |x^2- a^2|+ |x-a|= |x-a||x+a|+ |x-a|<br /> = (1/(2|a|+1))(\epsilon/2)|x+a|+ \epsilon/2\le \epsilon/2+ \epsilon/2= \epsilon.
 
thanks for the response HallsofIvy, I think I follow it mostly. one more small query: why must we take the minimum to express delta? my uninformed guess is that it is to satisfy the absolute values of |x - a| form or, because of the power of x (x^2, x^3, etc).
what do you think?
 

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