Understanding Minimum Path Difference for Waves Below the Centerline

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The discussion revolves around understanding the minimum path difference for wave interference, specifically addressing the differences in path lengths for angles below and above the centerline in a wave interference scenario.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between path lengths from two sources (A and B) and how these lengths affect wave phase at a detector. Questions arise regarding the implications of path differences on interference patterns.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, questioning the assumptions about path differences and phase shifts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the path length and phase differences, but no consensus has been reached on the overall understanding.

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There are indications of language barriers affecting communication, and some participants express confusion about the mathematical expressions related to path differences and phase shifts.

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(Sorry my poor English). I just don't understand why should the minimum path difference be 0.75 wavelengths for angles below the centerline instead 0.25 wavelenghts as it is for angles above the centerline.
 
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For angles below the centerline, is the path length from A to the detector greater or less than the path length from B?
 
It's greater, but how would it change the expression for interference?
 
Yes, the the path from A is greater when the angle is below the center line.

The wave from A has a "head start" compared to the wave from B due to the vibration of the speaker at A being 1/4 period ahead of the vibration at B. When the waves arrive at the detector, does the extra distance for A tend to make the phase of the wave from A even farther ahead of B or not as much ahead?

You might consider the case where the extra distance for A is 1/4 wavelength. A sketch will help.
 
(Sorry my poor English). Okay, but instead adding some value, it seems we have to subtracting one so that the right side of the equation equals to 0.75 wavelength

Xa - (1/2)λ - Xb = λ/4
Xa - Xb = 3λ/4
 
kent davidge said:
(Sorry my poor English). Okay, but instead adding some value, it seems we have to subtracting one so that the right side of the equation equals to 0.75 wavelength

Xa - (1/2)λ - Xb = λ/4
Xa - Xb = 3λ/4
I'm sorry, but I'm not quite following what you did here.

The extra distance that the wave from A travels will shift the phase of A in a direction that makes the phase of A "behind" the phase of B. But the wave from A started out 1/4 λ ahead of the wave from B. So, if the extra path distance that A has to travel is 1/4 λ, the waves from A and B will end up in phase at the detector.

You need to find the path difference in order for A and B to end up out of phase at the detector.
 
oh thank you TSny I understand it now. For any point above the centerline the distance from A will be always smaler than the distance from B. If waves from B start 1/4λ behind of waves from A, and if the distance from B is 1/4λ greater than distance from A, we add 1/4λ to find the position of the wave from B, which will be 1/4λ + 1/4λ = 1/2λ out of phase with waves from A. Analogous situation occurs from points below the centerline. Am I right?
 
kent davidge said:
oh thank you TSny I understand it now. For any point above the centerline the distance from A will be always smaler than the distance from B. If waves from B start 1/4λ behind of waves from A, and if the distance from B is 1/4λ greater than distance from A, we add 1/4λ to find the position of the wave from B, which will be 1/4λ + 1/4λ = 1/2λ out of phase with waves from A. Analogous situation occurs from points below the centerline. Am I right?
Yes. That's right.
 
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