Understanding Modulus Equations: Solving for x

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The discussion revolves around solving the modulus equation ##|2x+3|-x=1##. Participants are examining the implications of the absolute value and the conditions necessary for valid solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding candidate values for ##x## and the importance of checking these against the original equation. There are questions about the validity of the obtained solutions and the conditions under which they hold.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants suggesting graphical methods to visualize the problem. There is a recognition of the need to consider constraints when solving the equation, and some participants have confirmed that a typo in the textbook may have contributed to the confusion regarding the existence of solutions.

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Participants note that the condition ##x + 1 \ge 0## must be satisfied, which affects the validity of the solutions found. There is also mention of a potential typo in the original problem statement that may have led to misunderstandings.

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Homework Statement
##|2x+3|-x=1##
Relevant Equations
modulus
##|2x+3|-x=1##
i am getting ##x=-2## and ##x=\frac {-4}{3}## of which none satisfies the original equation, therefore we do not have a solution, right?
 
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What do you mean by getting? If there are no solutions, how can you get values for ##x?## You could draw the graph for ##y=|2x+3|## and the graph for ##y=1+x## and see if they intersect or not.
 
chwala said:
Homework Statement:: ##|2x+3|-x=1##
Relevant Equations:: modulus

##|2x+3|-x=1##
i am getting ##x=-2## and ##x=\frac {-4}{3}## of which none satisfies the original equation, therefore we do not have a solution, right?
The equation is equivalent to ##|2x + 3| = x + 1##
Because of the absolute value on the left, it must be true that ##x + 1 \ge 0##, or ##x \ge -1##. Neither of the solutions you found satisfies this additional requirement, so there is no solution.
 
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there...i just confirmed with problem owner, it was a typo on textbook part. No solution exists. cheers
 
fresh_42 said:
What do you mean by getting? If there are no solutions, how can you get values for ##x?## You could draw the graph for ##y=|2x+3|## and the graph for ##y=1+x## and see if they intersect or not.

when we solve modulus equations, we first try getting values for ##x## right? then proceed on checking if they satisfy the equation...
 
chwala said:
when we solve modulus equations, we first try getting values for ##x## right?
No, but you can get candidate values by ignoring some constraints (which should be specified) and check which resulting solutions satisfy them.
In the present case, you relaxed the given condition ##|2x+3|-x=1## to be ##±(2x+3)-x=1##.
 
haruspex said:
No, but you can get candidate values by ignoring some constraints (which should be specified) and check which resulting solutions satisfy them.
In the present case, you relaxed the given condition ##|2x+3|-x=1## to be ##±(2x+3)-x=1##.
Either case, by considering those constraints, you will end up with the values that I found...
 
chwala said:
Either case, by considering those constraints, you will end up with the values that I found...
Sure, but you seemed not to understand why readers were confused by your saying you got those values for x.
 
haruspex said:
Sure, but you seemed not to understand why readers were confused by your saying you got those values for x.
Ok boss, thanks noted...
 

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