Understanding Moon Phases: Examples & Visualization

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around understanding the phases of the moon in relation to its position and the position of the sun in the sky. Participants explore visualization techniques and clarify concepts related to lunar phases, equinoxes, and the moon's movement.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to visualize the moon's phases based on its position relative to the sun, providing specific examples for clarification.
  • Another participant suggests using a table lamp and fruit as a visualization tool but questions the relevance of equinoxes to moon phases, indicating a potential misunderstanding.
  • A different participant interprets the relationship between the moon and sun's positions, suggesting that a full moon occurs when they are 180 degrees apart, noting the conditions for a lunar eclipse.
  • Another participant describes the moon's movement from west to east and its declination, mentioning a sinusoidal graph of declination versus right ascension with a period of about 27 days.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the relevance of equinoxes to moon phases, and there are differing interpretations of the moon's positioning and its implications for lunar phases.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the relationship between the moon's position and the equinoxes remain unresolved, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of the moon's movement and phase visualization techniques.

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I feel as though I have a good understanding of the movements of the moon, sun, planets and any other bodies out there, but there is still one thing that has been giving me trouble. My problem is finding out the phase of the moon given its position and the suns position in the sky. Can someone help me try to understand a way to visualize it? Here are some examples:

1) Moon is east of the Sun in the sky.
2) The Sun is located at the vernal equinox and the moon is at the autumnal
equinox.
3) A lunar eclipse occurred about one week ago.
 
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Here's a recent thread on the subject: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=441518

However, the best way to visualize the phases is with a table lamp and some fruit!

However, however, I'm not sure what the equinoxes really have to do with the phases and the wording doesn't make much sense to me: the equinox has to do with the tilt of the Earth with respect to the Sun. It doesn't have anything to do with where the moon is. Perhaps equinox isn't the word you are looking for?
 
I think it means that the moon will be full as they are separated by 180 degrees (if the nodes were aligned then it would be a lunar eclipse).

Thanks for the thread, I'll check it out
 
The moon travels from West to the East. Having a Declination +/- 24degrees maximum/minimum somewhere above or below the Ecliptic. When the Declination is graphed with the Right Ascension it creates a sinusoid wth a peroid about 27 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon
 
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