Understanding Negative Numbers in -2x |X| < 4 Equation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of the function defined by -2x and the implications of the absolute value in the context of the inequality |x| < 4. Participants are exploring how negative inputs affect the output of the function and the interpretation of the domain.

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  • Participants are questioning how the absolute value affects the function's output, particularly when negative values are inputted. There is confusion regarding the relationship between the domain defined by |x| < 4 and the resulting function values.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the function's definition and the role of absolute values. Some participants are attempting to reconcile their understanding of the function's behavior across different intervals.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the interpretation of the absolute value and its implications for the function's output, particularly in relation to negative inputs. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the definitions and intervals involved.

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Homework Statement


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This is the solution, the question was find its domain.

Homework Equations


How does |X| (less than or equal to) 4, when a negative number is inputed into -2x how does that = a positive number?

The Attempt at a Solution


On the graph to me All X values < 0 should be negative or atleast until -5
Because the -2x if |x| < 4

If we put f(2) -2 * |2| = -4 which works on the graph but if I put -2 which would equal positive 2 because of the absolute value the graph seems to not make sense for me.
f(-2) should equal -4 as well right?
 
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brycenrg said:

Homework Statement


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This is the solution, the question was find its domain.

Homework Equations


How does |X| (less than or equal to) 4, when a negative number is inputed into -2x how does that = a positive number?

f(-2) = -2(-2) = + 4
f(3) = -2(3) = -6


The Attempt at a Solution


On the graph to me All X values < 0 should be negative or atleast until -5
I think that you are confusing values in the domain with the resulting function values.

The function has three different formulas, with each valid on a different interval. For input values between -4 and 4, the middle formula is used.
brycenrg said:
Because the -2x if |x| < 4

If we put f(2) -2 * |2| = -4 which works on the graph but if I put -2 which would equal positive 2 because of the absolute value the graph seems to not make sense for me.
f(-2) should equal -4 as well right?
You are not graphing y = |x|, which seems to be part of your confusion here. They could just as well have said that the middle formula applies if -4 ≤ x ≤ 4.
 
Thanks for the reply, but aren't you graphing -2*|x| for the interval -4 ≤ x ≤ 4?
For example f(-3) = -6 because -2 *|-3| = -6?
thats why I am thinking the graph at -4 ≤ x ≤ 0 should be negative numbers not positive
 
brycenrg said:
Thanks for the reply, but aren't you graphing -2*|x| for the interval -4 ≤ x ≤ 4?
For example f(-3) = -6 because -2 *|-3| = -6?
thats why I am thinking the graph at -4 ≤ x ≤ 0 should be negative numbers not positive

No. The problem says for |x|<=4, f(x)=-2x. That's not the same as saying for |x|<=4, f(x)=-2|x|.
 
I see I am confused. I thought the right side |x| <= 4 means any value less than or equal to 4 but because its x is in absolute value brackets if x was -1 it would be 1 so then you would plug 1 into -2x? What is the point of the |x| then? Does that make sense on my confusion lol?
 
brycenrg said:
I see I am confused. I thought the right side |x| <= 4 means any value less than or equal to 4
That's not what |x| ≤ 4 means. -5 ≤ 4, but -5 doesn't satisfy |x| ≤ 4.
brycenrg said:
but because its x is in absolute value brackets if x was -1 it would be 1 so then you would plug 1 into -2x?
NO.
brycenrg said:
What is the point of the |x| then?
The ONLY purpose of the absolute value here is to define the interval on which the second formula should be applied.

The second part of the function's definition could have been written as
f(x) = -2x, if -4 ≤ x -4

To answer your question above, f(-1) = -2(-1) = +2.
brycenrg said:
Does that make sense on my confusion lol?
 
Always think! What numbers can I put in for x so |x| is less than 4. I like to think and teach that the absolute of any number is that same exact number but without a sign. So in |x|<4 we are asking which number or numbers, if any, when we ignore the sign will be less than 4. I will give you a hint, there are 7 integers in this set.
 

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