Understanding Non-Holonomic Constraints for Particle Motion

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The discussion revolves around understanding non-holonomic constraints in the context of a particle moving in the x-y plane, specifically under the condition that its velocity is directed towards a point on the x-axis defined by a differentiable function of time, f(t). Participants are exploring the implications of this constraint and its classification as non-holonomic.

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  • Participants are attempting to interpret the constraint and its implications, questioning whether the velocity points to the same point on the x-axis and discussing the necessity of constants in the expression for x. Some are recalling definitions of holonomic versus non-holonomic constraints and considering examples to illustrate their understanding.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and recalling definitions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of holonomic and non-holonomic constraints, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to proving the non-holonomic nature of the constraint.

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Participants are navigating definitions and examples of constraints, with some expressing uncertainty about the requirements for proving non-holonomic status. There is mention of the need to formulate a constraint equation and explore integrability, indicating a focus on the mathematical properties of the constraints involved.

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A particle moves in the x-y plane under the constraint that its velocity is always directed towards a point on the x-axis whose absicissa is some given function of time f(t). Show that for f(t) differentiable, but otherwise arbitrary, the constraint is non-holonomic.

All I could infer from the above question is:
x = Cf(t)
C is a constant.
If the velocity is directed towards a point on the x-axis, is the same point?

Could someone guide me in the right direction?
 
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Reshma said:
A particle moves in the x-y plane under the constraint that its velocity is always directed towards a point on the x-axis whose absicissa is some given function of time f(t). Show that for f(t) differentiable, but otherwise arbitrary, the constraint is non-holonomic.

All I could infer from the above question is:
x = Cf(t)
C is a constant.
If the velocity is directed towards a point on the x-axis, is the same point?

Could someone guide me in the right direction?
I interpret the problem to mean that x = f(t). I see no need for the constant, since the only requirement is that f(x) be differentiable. And yes, no matter where the particle might be at some time, its velocity is always pointing toward that point x = f(t).

I have quite forgotten what makes a constraint holonomic, but I can imagine a bead sliding on a straight wire with one end attached at x=f(t) but free to rotate. The bead would be constrained to be moving only toward or away from the point x at any instant.
 
OlderDan said:
I interpret the problem to mean that x = f(t). I see no need for the constant, since the only requirement is that f(x) be differentiable. And yes, no matter where the particle might be at some time, its velocity is always pointing toward that point x = f(t).

I have quite forgotten what makes a constraint holonomic, but I can imagine a bead sliding on a straight wire with one end attached at x=f(t) but free to rotate. The bead would be constrained to be moving only toward or away from the point x at any instant.
I'm strictly going by my textbook definition:
Holonomic constraints will have integrable terms, non-holonomic constraints will have non-integrable terms. So I think here I have to formulate a constraint equation which can be shown to be non-integrable and prove that the constraint is non-holonomic. Am I going right?
 
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OlderDan said:
I have quite forgotten what makes a constraint holonomic, but I can imagine a bead sliding on a straight wire with one end attached at x=f(t) but free to rotate. The bead would be constrained to be moving only toward or away from the point x at any instant.
Yes, this is a classic example of holonomic constraint. The constraint can be expressed in terms of its independent coordinates in the form:
f (r1, r2,...,t) = 0
But that can be done for a non-holonomic one.
 
Reshma said:
Yes, this is a classic example of holonomic constraint. The constraint can be expressed in terms of its independent coordinates in the form:
f (r1, r2,...,t) = 0
But that can be done for a non-holonomic one.
I don't know what you are required to do to prove the constraint is non-holonomic, but I read a bit and reminded myself that holonomic constraints reduce the number of degrees of freedom of a system. This velocity constraint clearly does not do that. As a general rule, velocity constraints do not constrain the coordinates, so they are non-holonomic.
 
What are the other non-holonomic constraints? Correct me if I'm wrong but there's the leonomic and scleronomic right? What's the difference between the two?
 

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