Understanding Op Amp Offset Voltage: Rules & Examples

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The discussion focuses on understanding Op Amp offset voltage, specifically in the context of using the LM741 operational amplifier in a feedback circuit. Participants highlight that offset voltage, or offset error, occurs when the two inputs of the op-amp settle at different voltages due to inherent errors. A practical example involves using the AD22100 sensor to measure temperature and sending the output to a voltage-controlled oscillator (VCO) TS902, where offset voltage affects the results. The conversation emphasizes the importance of schematic representation and techniques to minimize input offset current effects in older op-amps like the LM741.

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  • Understanding of operational amplifiers, particularly the LM741 model
  • Familiarity with temperature sensors, specifically the AD22100
  • Knowledge of voltage-controlled oscillators (VCO), such as the TS902
  • Basic circuit design and schematic interpretation skills
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  • Research techniques to minimize input offset voltage in operational amplifiers
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  • Explore tutorials on operational amplifier offset voltage, focusing on the LM741
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Electronics students, circuit designers, and engineers working with operational amplifiers and temperature measurement systems will benefit from this discussion.

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please

can anyone give me clearly information about Op Amp Offset Voltage

with simple example and rule to explain that becaus i was found diffecalt to understsnd it .
 
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An op-amp in a feedback circuit should drive its two inputs to the same voltage. In reality, the amplifier will have some error, and the two inputs will settle at slightly different voltages. The difference in the two voltages is called the "offset voltage" or "offset error."

- Warren
 
ok thanks

but can u give me any example with value of input and resistor and what the solution
 
I have no idea what you're asking for. If you need help with a homework problem, please show us the problem (exactly as it was given to you), show us your work, and explain how and why you're stuck.

- Warren
 
i want to send patient tempareture

so at first i have sensor (AD22100) with 10 degree range

after that send the voltage of the sensor to VCO to convert v/f (TS902).

but between the sensor and VCO i need op amp (741) but when i connect it the offset apper in the result and i am connect varaible resistor to the feedback of the op amp but i don't now how can i get the right result.

not: u can see the data sheet if u want about sensor (AD22100),VCO(TS9402).AMPLIFIRE (741).

THANKS
 
Can you show us a schematic?

- Warren
 
who can i do that
 
ecestar said:
who can i do that

How can you do that? If you have the schematic on your PC screen, you can press Alt-PrintScreen on most computers, and that will store a "screenshot" of the active window to the Windows Clipboard. Then go into an application like "Paint", and paste it in. Save it as a JPG file, or convert to PDF, and upload it here as an attachment (careful of the size -- there are limitations to upload file size). If the file is too big to upload, store it on an outside server or your own website, and post a link to it here.

Also, with an older non-CMOS opamp like the LM741, there is a trick to minimize input offset current effects (which can be worse than input offset voltage effects on some opamps). When you show us your schematic, we can look to see if you are using this trick correctly.
 
ecestar said:
please

can anyone give me clearly information about Op Amp Offset Voltage

with simple example and rule to explain that becaus i was found diffecalt to understsnd it .
For open loop

Vout = A{V+ - V- - Voffset]

If you build a voltage follower with gain of 1 (wire from Vout to V-), and ground the positive input, the output voltage is equal to the offset voltage.
 
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berkeman said:
How can you do that? If you have the schematic on your PC screen, you can press Alt-PrintScreen on most computers, and that will store a "screenshot" of the active window to the Windows Clipboard. Then go into an application like "Paint", and paste it in. Save it as a JPG file, or convert to PDF, and upload it here as an attachment (careful of the size -- there are limitations to upload file size). If the file is too big to upload, store it on an outside server or your own website, and post a link to it here.

Also, with an older non-CMOS opamp like the LM741, there is a trick to minimize input offset current effects (which can be worse than input offset voltage effects on some opamps). When you show us your schematic, we can look to see if you are using this trick correctly.


i don't software to draw this circut can u give me one
 
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and i need example to show me the mean of offset please
 
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ecestar said:
and i need example to show me the mean of offset please

Google is your friend. Learn to use it. I Googled the following (type it in the Google search box):

opamp input offset voltage tutorial

And Google came back asking if I meant:

op amp input offset voltage tutorial

to which I answered OK. Here is the hit list:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=op+amp+input+offset+voltage+tutorial&spell=1

There are many good hits, including a tutorial on your LM741 opamp (that's how I usually spell opamp, not op amp) as the first hit. Hope that helps.
 

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