Understanding Propane Heater Behavior: Causes and Solutions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of propane heaters, specifically addressing issues related to erratic performance, such as loud noises resembling a rocket engine and cooling of the mantle. Participants explore potential causes and solutions, focusing on mechanical and operational factors affecting the heater's functionality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their propane heater's tendency to make loud noises and cool down unexpectedly, particularly in windy conditions and at low settings.
  • Another participant suggests that the "ignition front" may be moving back within the fuel feed, drawing parallels to issues seen in oxy-acetylene welding torches.
  • Concerns are raised about the orientation of the air mix adjustment and its potential impact on heater performance.
  • Some participants propose checking the pressure regulator and the propane tank's excess flow protection as possible sources of instability.
  • There are mentions of debris and clogging in the orifices as a common cause of performance deterioration over time.
  • One participant notes that the heater's performance may worsen when the propane tank is low, and they inquire about the specific burner element affected.
  • Suggestions for cleaning tools, including specialized cleaning burrs for orifices, are discussed, with some skepticism about their effectiveness.
  • A participant expresses consideration of replacing the heater due to ongoing issues and the cost of repairs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the causes of the heater's erratic behavior, with no consensus reached on a single solution or explanation. Various hypotheses are explored, but the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding the heater's design and operation, as well as unresolved details about the specific model in question. The discussion also reflects a range of experiences with similar symptoms across different devices.

  • #31
We had a thermal oxidizer on the tail end of a sulfur recovery unit have intermittent "flame failure" trips on the burner management system. This was a pretty big deal. Turning off an incinerator while full of bad stuff wasn't something you wanted to do. Management pressure to fix this *right now* was high.

After a while, we found a spider using the air cooling bleed as an entrance to the flame detection port and it could get close enough to the detector for it to fail self-check. Insect screens, redundant flame sensors, etc. were installed to address this and other issues.

I hate to think how much money that one cost. After that, I tended to refer to any arthropods/parts in incinerator, furnace, or other burner instrumentation systems as "debris", which for some reason was more politically correct than "spiders" at that facility.
 
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ChemAir said:
I hate to think how much money that one cost.
You would be shocked to hear how many people have died because insects block the fuel tank air vent in small aircraft.
 
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Have you gone poking around yet to see what may be blocking the mixing tube, and other flow paths?

I was thinking about a cheap way to fashion a steel cloth screen around the mixing tube air inlet. One option is to adapt stainless steel teapot mesh strainers similar to those by uxcell sold for $5 USD through Amazon like so.
mixing tube mesh guard.jpg

Don't know how I'd join the two pieces together, but it's that time of year when fishing comes to mind, and sewing them together with stainless steel leader would probably do the job.
 

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