Understanding Proportional Components in Equations

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To determine if one component is proportional to another in equations, it is essential to analyze the relationships involved. For example, in the equation s = ut + 1/2 at^2, s is only proportional to t when acceleration (a) is zero, as u remains constant. In contrast, the area A = πr^2 shows that A is proportional to r^2, since π is a constant. Additionally, in the equation v = u + at, if acceleration is zero, final velocity v is proportional to time t; otherwise, it is not. Understanding these conditions highlights that proportional relationships can vary based on specific circumstances within equations.
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Homework Statement


Looking at a set of equations -how exactly do you work out if one component is proportional to another.


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In the example given s = ut + 1/2 at^2, I am told that s is not proporional to t unless acceleration is zero, because u is a constant.



The Attempt at a Solution


On one of my simpler questions, A=pi r^2, I am assumning that because pi is a constant A must be proportional to r^2 as that is what controlshow big or small A is.

On a second question v = u + at, I thought, as in the example that if acceleration is zero, that the final velocity must be proportional to time because u, the initial velocity, is a constant. But if acceleration is not zero then v is not proportional to t.

If that is correct, are there always (in most equations) some sort circumstances where the components that would be proportional in one circumstance, are not in another?

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physics-chris said:
In the example given s = ut + 1/2 at^2, I am told that s is not proporional to t unless acceleration is zero, because u is a constant.
For variable Y to be proportional to variable X just means that if X is increased by some factor, then Y is increased by the same factor. That's only true if the relationship between Y and X can be written like: Y = constant*X.

In this example, s = ut would be an example of proportionality, but s = ut + 1/2 at^2 would not.

The Attempt at a Solution


On one of my simpler questions, A=pi r^2, I am assumning that because pi is a constant A must be proportional to r^2 as that is what controlshow big or small A is.
Right. Here A is proportional to r^2, since A = constant*r^2. (Note that A is proportional to r^2, but not to r.)
 
Thanks- think I've sorted it now
 
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