Understanding Reduction Formula

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The discussion revolves around the reduction formula for the integral of the tangent function, specifically ## \int \tan^n x \, dx ## where ## n ## is a positive integer. Participants explore the steps involved in deriving the reduction formula and the implications of different approaches to differentiation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their derivation of the reduction formula, expressing a need for insight into the transition to the formula ## I_n = \dfrac{1}{n-1} \tan^{n-1} x - I_{n-2} ##.
  • Another participant suggests using the derivative ## \dfrac{d}{dx}\tan x = 1 + \tan^2 x ## to stay within the tangent framework.
  • Some participants note that both forms of the derivative, ## \dfrac{d}{dx}\tan x = \sec^2 x ## and ## \dfrac{d}{dx}\tan x = 1 + \tan^2 x ##, yield the same results, indicating a preference may depend on personal habit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the best approach to take regarding the differentiation of the tangent function, as participants express differing preferences for the forms of the derivative.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not resolve the implications of using different derivatives in the context of the reduction formula, leaving the discussion open to interpretation.

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To check on how to arrive at ##I_n = \dfrac{1}{n-1}⋅ \tan^{n-1} x - I_{n-2}##
I am looking at ## \int \tan^n dx ## where ##n## is a positive integer. The index ##n## has been reduced by writing ##\tan^n x ## as ##\tan ^{n-2} \tan^2 x## which is quite clear with me.

We have,

## \int \tan^n xdx = \int \tan^{n-2} x⋅ \tan^2 x dx=\int \tan^{n-2}x ⋅(\sec^2 x -1) dx ##

=##\int \tan^{n-2} x⋅\sec^2 x dx - \int \tan^{n-2} dx ##

now this is the part that i need some insight how they moved to

##I_n = \dfrac{1}{n-1}⋅ \tan^{n-1} x - I_{n-2}##

not to say that i do not get it...i want to check if i am doing it right,

My steps,

given,

## \int \tan^n x dx = \int \tan^{n-2} x⋅\sec^2 x dx - \int \tan^{n-2} dx ##

i let ##u = tan x## therefore ##u^{'} = \sec^2 x## and writing ##\int \tan^n x dx ## as ##I_n##,

##I_n = \int u^{n-2} du - I_{n-2}##

##I_n = \dfrac{1}{n-1}⋅ u^{n-1} - I_{n-2}##

##I_n = \dfrac{1}{n-1}⋅ \tan^{n-1} x - I_{n-2}##

Thanks and cheers.
 
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I haven't checked but I think you should use ##\dfrac{d}{dx}\tan x = 1+\tan^2 x## to remain in the tangent regime.
 
Both ways
$$ \begin{align}
&\frac{d}{dx}\tan x=\sec^2x\\
&\frac{d}{dx}\tan x=(1+\tan^2x)
\end{align} $$
produce the same result and they are almost the same. Which one will be used will probably depend on the habit.
 
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Gavran said:
Both ways
$$ \begin{align}
&\frac{d}{dx}\tan x=\sec^2x\\
&\frac{d}{dx}\tan x=(1+\tan^2x)
\end{align} $$
produce the same result and they are almost the same. Which one will be used will probably depend on the habit.
I was guessing so...
 
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