Understanding Reflective Radiation Pressure

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The discussion revolves around understanding radiation pressure, specifically the differences between pressure due to absorption and reflection. Participants are exploring the implications of photon momentum and the effects of incident angles on the calculations of reflective radiation pressure.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the derivation of the factor of cos squared in the formula for reflective radiation pressure. Questions are raised about the assumptions made in the Wikipedia article regarding the angle of incidence and the distribution of photons striking the surface.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the angle of incidence and the effective area of the reflector, as well as the momentum transfer during reflection. There is an ongoing exploration of how these factors contribute to the overall understanding of radiation pressure.

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Participants are considering the effects of different angles of incidence on the number of photons striking the surface and how this relates to the calculations of radiation pressure. There is an acknowledgment of the differences between ideal and non-ideal reflective surfaces.

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Hi,

I am just trying to understand the basis of radiation pressure. I understand radiation pressure due to absorption, but I am having a hard time understanding the radiation pressure due to reflection.

From what I understand there will be an incoming photon with momentum p = E/c. The normal momentum will be imparted into the reflecting surface upon impact, resulting in a transfer of energy of Ef/c * cos(a) for incident angle a.

Now the photon will also be reflected in a random direction. I think that there should be an integral over the solid angle to capture all possible reflection angles, but I am not sure what to do exactly. I know Wiki says Preflec=2Ef/c * cos2a for an incident angle a. I am not sure where the cos squared comes from.
 
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Hello rodriguez1gv and welcome to PF!

rodriguez1gv said:
From what I understand there will be an incoming photon with momentum p = E/c. The normal momentum will be imparted into the reflecting surface upon impact, resulting in a transfer of energy of Ef/c * cos(a) for incident angle a.


Now the photon will also be reflected in a random direction. I think that there should be an integral over the solid angle to capture all possible reflection angles, but I am not sure what to do exactly. I know Wiki says Preflec=2Ef/c * cos2a for an incident angle a.

The wiki article assumes that the angle of reflection is the same as the angle of incidence rather than random reflection direction.

I am not sure where the cos squared comes from.

Note this statement from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure#Radiation_pressure_by_particle_model:_photons :

"The orientation of a reflector determines the component of momentum normal to its surface, and also affects the frontal area of the surface facing the energy source..."

The article is considering a beam of light in which the cross sectional area of the beam is larger than the area of the reflecting surface (like holding a mirror in sunlight.) Think about what happens as you alter the angle of tilt of the reflecting surface in the beam. Will the same number of photons strike the surface per unit time?
 
hi rodriguez1gv! welcome to pf! :smile:
rodriguez1gv said:
. I am not sure where the cos squared comes from.

imagine that you have a 1 sq cm tube of light falling on the reflector

if it falls perpendicuarly, it it spread over 1 sq cm of the reflector

but if it falls at an angle θ, it falls on 1/cosθ sq cm, so it is more spread out, and is diluted by a factor cosθ

furthermore, only the component of momentum perpendicular to the reflector is reversed, so that's another factor of cosθ :wink:

(wikipedia talks about a perfect reflector, so the calculation will be slightly different if the surface is matt)
 
So, to reiterate, the cos squared is accounting for the perpendicular energy and a reduced incident flux due to the tilt of a surface? That makes sense I think, Thanks for the help!
 

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