Understanding Sets in Real Analysis

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The discussion revolves around understanding sets in real analysis, specifically focusing on the intersection and union of sets defined by natural number multiples. The original poster seeks clarification on the reasoning behind a solution provided in a textbook and the meaning of a subsequent question.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the intersection of sets defined by multiples of natural numbers and explore examples to illustrate the concepts of union and intersection. Questions arise regarding the choice of specific examples and their relevance to the broader problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants express understanding of part (a) while seeking further clarification on part (b). Guidance is offered regarding the use of examples to aid comprehension, although there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to articulate the generalized forms of the sets involved.

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Participants note the challenge of expressing the sets in part (b) concisely and the importance of individual cases in grasping the concepts. There is an acknowledgment of the randomness in example selection, which may contribute to confusion regarding its connection to the problem.

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The solution at the end of the book says that the answer for a) is A5. Why is it so?

Please also explain me the meaning for the question b).
 

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Part (a):
[tex]A_1 = \{2k : k \in\textbf{N}\}[/tex] and [tex]A_2 = \{3k : k \in\textbf{N}\}.[/tex]
So [tex]A_1 \cap A_2 = \{x : x = 2k_1 \ \wedge \ x = 3k_2 , k_1 \in \textbf{N} , k_2 \in\textbf{N}\}.[/tex] In plainer words, this set contains all natural numbers that are divisible both by 2 and by 3, i.e., they are divisible by 6. Do you understand the rest?

Part (b):
I don't want to give it entirely away, so I'll suggest looking at some examples.
e.g. Let n = 5. Then [tex]\bigcup\{A_n : n \in\textbf{N}\}[/tex] is the set of natural numbers divisible by 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6. And [tex]\bigcap\{A_n : n \in\textbf{N}\}[/tex] is the set of natural numbers divisible by 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6.
 
Thank you,
I have understood a).
May I ask why did you pick n=5 in b)? I understand it is an example. But I don't understand its connection to the problem.
I am dumb, I know. Sorry.
 
Nah, I just chose n = 5 as a random example. I could've used n = 3, 4, 17, 9018, ... doesn't matter. When you're having trouble understanding the generalized form of a problem/proof, it often helps to look at individual cases. There's no real pretty/concise way of expressing either of the sets in (b) that I can think of, but it's important you can at least describe them to yourself in words.

i.e., "For any natural number n, [tex]\bigcup\{A_n : n \in\textbf{N}\}[/tex] is just the set of natural numbers that are ... and [tex]\bigcap\{A_n : n \in\textbf{N}\}[/tex] is just the set of natural numbers that are ... "
 

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