The Subsequential Limit Points of a Bounded Sequence

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The discussion revolves around proving that the set of subsequential limit points of a bounded sequence is a subsequentially compact set. The original poster expresses difficulty in starting the proof and seeks hints to clarify their understanding of the concepts involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of limit points, subsequential limit points, and subsequential compactness. There is an emphasis on constructing convergent sequences from the set of subsequential limit points and utilizing the Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem.

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Some participants have offered insights into the nature of convergent subsequences and the implications of boundedness. There is recognition of the need to clarify the relationship between subsequences and their limit points, with a focus on the properties that arise from bounded sequences.

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The original poster mentions challenges in translating thoughts into written form, indicating a potential barrier to articulating their reasoning. The discussion also highlights the reliance on established theorems, such as Bolzano-Weierstrass, to support claims about convergence.

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Homework Statement


Let (a_n) be a bounded sequence. Prove that the set of subsequential limit points of (a_n) is a subsequentially compact set

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To be a subsequentutially compact set, every sequence in the set of limit points of (a_n) must have a convergent subsequence.

The Attempt at a Solution


I need a hint to help get me started >.< haha. My attempt at the solution is just thoughts, hard to get the pencil to the paper if you know what I mean.

So first of all I'm trying to think of what sequences in the set of subsequential limit points will look like. Yeah, any insight what-so-ever is appreciated, analysis is hard >.<
 
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Without having the solution in mind ... it's always a good idea, to start with what one has. This means to write down the definitions. I counted three: limit point, subsequential limit point and subsequential compact. I suppose this involves a lot of subsequences, so it might be possible to concentrate on only them. I guess, you will need to construct a (convergent) sequence out of the ones in the set of subsequential limit points and you will be able to use the ordinary compactness to find one.
 
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You have a family of convergent subsequences that are all bounded. Let D be the set that contains the limit points of the subsequences. What can be said about D?
 
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nuuskur said:
You have a family of convergent subsequences that are all bounded. Let D be the set that contains the limit points of the subsequences. What can be said about D?

So I have a family of convergent subsequences because I have a set of subsequential limit points. If we let D be the set that contains the limit points of the subsequences, we can say that D is bounded, because (a_n) is bounded. Therefore we can use the bolzano-weirstrass theorem which states that every bounded sequences has a convergent subsequence, and thus the set of subsequential limit points of (a_n) is a subsequentially compact set, because any sequence in this set will have a convergent subsequence.
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Your end result is correct, but you have convergent subsequences because the initial sequence is bounded. The Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem is a very powerful tool, as you can see :)

So I have a family of convergent subsequences because I have a set of subsequential limit points

This is a bit odd to consider. If I have a point, I can immediately construct a sequence that converges to that point. B-W guarantees the existence of at least one convergent subsequence of a bounded sequence. There are probably more. Without loss of generality, a family of such subsequences.
 
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