Understanding Smooth Solutions to PDEs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of smooth solutions to partial differential equations (PDEs), exploring definitions, interpretations, and contexts in which the term "smooth" is used. Participants examine the implications of smoothness in relation to derivatives and continuity, as well as its relevance in various mathematical frameworks.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the definition of a smooth solution to PDEs, suggesting that it may involve continuity and the existence of all derivatives.
  • Another participant asserts that a function is smooth if all its derivatives are continuous, referencing the vector space C^\infty(Ω) for such functions.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that while there may not be a formal definition of smoothness, it generally implies having sufficient continuous derivatives for specific applications.
  • One participant provides a "formal" definition stating that a function is smooth if its first derivative is continuous, introducing the term "sufficiently smooth" for functions with a required number of continuous derivatives.
  • Another participant states that the standard definition in manifold theory is that all derivatives exist and are continuous, contrasting this with real analytic solutions, which are described as more rigid.
  • It is noted that the definition of smoothness may depend on the context, such as whether one is working within Sobolev spaces or other frameworks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of smoothness, with no consensus on a singular definition. Multiple competing views regarding the nature and requirements of smooth solutions remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the potential ambiguity in the term "smooth," with references to different mathematical contexts and the implications of various definitions. There is an acknowledgment that the definitions may depend on the specific mathematical framework being used.

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What exactly is a smooth solution to PDEs. I couldn't find the definition in my books, googled that and came up empty handed. I suspect the solution must be continuous with all the deriviatives.
 
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You are right. A function is said to be smooth if all its derivatives are continous. The vector space of such functions is denoted C^\infty(\Omega), where \Omega is the domain where the function is defined.

I don't believe there is a formal definition of smoothness, but in general, when a text is talking about a smooth function, is implying that the function has as many continuous derivatives (not necesarily all) required for something to occur.
 
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Thanks a lot.
 
The "formal" definition of "smooth" that I have seen is "first derivative is continuous". I have also seen the phrase "sufficiently smooth" meaning as many continuous derivatives as you need.
 
Hi all, the standard definition of "smooth" (without qualification) in most textbooks on manifold theory is indeed that derivatives of all orders exist and are continuous. Examples include bump functions (as in partitions of unity) and frequency components of wave packets. Contrast real analytic solutions, which are far more "rigid"!

But Halls is also right, in the sense that many books/papers refer to "smooth of order such and such", or even "sufficiently smooth", meaning what AiRAVATA said: sufficiently smooth (usually short for "derivatives exist to order n and are continuous to order n-1") to ensure you can use whatever theorem you plan to quote in a proof.
 
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It depend if your are working on Sobolev sapces or others
 

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