Understanding Taylor Series Approximations

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Taylor series approximations, specifically addressing the meaning of "about a point x=a" and how Taylor series can be constructed based on information about a function at a single point. Participants explore the implications of this phrasing and the nature of Taylor series in terms of approximation and convergence.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants clarify that "about a point x=a" indicates the interval of convergence is centered on a, suggesting a neighborhood of a defined by |x-a|
  • There are questions regarding the phrasing of inquiries about Taylor series, with some participants noting that certain formulations may not be appropriate questions.
  • One participant explains the process of approximating a function using Taylor series, starting from basic properties like function value and derivatives at a point, leading to the construction of successive Taylor polynomials.
  • Another participant warns that even if a function is infinitely differentiable, the Taylor series may not converge to the function beyond a single point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of Taylor series and the significance of the point x=a, but there is no consensus on the phrasing of questions related to the topic. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints on how to approach the explanation of Taylor series.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of functions and their differentiability are present, but these are not explicitly stated or resolved within the discussion.

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When it says "about a point x=a", what does this mean? why not just say at x = a?

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Because x is a variable. Saying that the Taylor series is "about the point x= a" means its interval of convergence is centered on a:
[tex]\sum a_n (x- a)^n[/tex].
 
Because one is looking at a neighbourhood of a, say all x that satisfy |x-a|<d for some (small) number delta>0.
 
why can be written taylor series?
 
Despite the question mark, that is not a question.
 
Landau said:
Despite the question mark, that is not a question.

can we ask like that: how do the taylor's series work?
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Landau said:
Because one is looking at a neighbourhood of a, say all x that satisfy |x-a|<d for some (small) number delta>0.

HallsofIvy said:
Because x is a variable. Saying that the Taylor series is "about the point x= a" means its interval of convergence is centered on a:
[tex]\sum a_n (x- a)^n[/tex].

Thanks
 
alpagut said:
can we ask like that: how do the taylor's series work?
Thanks
One way to look at it is this- how can we best approximate a function, given information about it at a single point?

If the only thing we know is that f(a)= A, then the simplest thing to do is to approximate f(x) by the constant A- and there is no reason to think that any more complicated formula would give a better approximation.

If we know that f(a)= A and f'(a)= B, then we can approximate f by the linear function satisying those properties: y= A+ B(x- a).

If we know that f(a)= A, f'(a)= B, and f"(b)= C, the simplest function having those properties is [itex]y= A+ B(x- a)+ (C/2)(x- a)^2[/itex].

Continuing in that way, gives the succesive "Taylor's polynomials". For especially "nice" functions, we can extend that to an infinite power series, the "Taylor's series".

(But be careful, even if a function is infinitely differentiable, so that we can form the "Taylor's series", it can happen that the Taylor's series does not converge to the function at more than single point.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
One way to look at it is this- how can we best approximate a function, given information about it at a single point?

If the only thing we know is that f(a)= A, then the simplest thing to do is to approximate f(x) by the constant A- and there is no reason to think that any more complicated formula would give a better approximation.

If we know that f(a)= A and f'(a)= B, then we can approximate f by the linear function satisying those properties: y= A+ B(x- a).

If we know that f(a)= A, f'(a)= B, and f"(b)= C, the simplest function having those properties is [itex]y= A+ B(x- a)+ (C/2)(x- a)^2[/itex].

Continuing in that way, gives the succesive "Taylor's polynomials". For especially "nice" functions, we can extend that to an infinite power series, the "Taylor's series".

(But be careful, even if a function is infinitely differentiable, so that we can form the "Taylor's series", it can happen that the Taylor's series does not converge to the function at more than single point.)

Thank you!
 

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