Understanding the Concept of Backwards Integration in Definite Integrals

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The discussion centers on the concept of backwards integration in definite integrals, specifically why integrating from b to a yields the negative of integrating from a to b. The participants clarify that this is rooted in the definition of integration via Riemann sums, where switching the limits of integration results in a negative sign due to the change in the sign of Δx. The Fundamental Theorem of Calculus is referenced, establishing that ab f(x) dx = F(b) - F(a) and ba f(x) dx = -∫ab f(x) dx. This relationship is confirmed through various mathematical proofs and definitions.

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I have a question, if I have a function that is continuous on the interval [a, b] where a <= b, why would integrating this interval backwards (i.e. taking the definite integral from b to a) be the negative of taking the definite integral from a to b? Can someone explain this from the definition? Thanks.
 
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I don't think you can actually see this from the usual definition. One can define integration in the opposite direction as being negative; this I have heard allows us to prove the fundamental theorem of calculus.

Intuitively, it makes sense if you think of your partitions going in the opposite direction, so that each delta x in the Riemann sum is negative what it would have been. There is a formal theory behind this intuition, involving orienting manifolds, but I am not totally familiar with it.
 
I'm not sure how far you're into properties of integrals. For example, try proving that \int_a^b f(x)dx = -\int_b^a f(x)dx.
\int_a^b f(x)dx = F(b) - F(a) by the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus
- \int_a^b f(x)dx = - F(b) + F(a)
- \int_a^b f(x)dx = F(a) - F(b)
- \int_a^b f(x)dx = \int_b^a f(x)dx
\int_a^b f(x)dx = -\int_b^a f(x)dx

Sorry, I haven't thought of a simpler way to explain it, but this is assuming that the fundamental theorem is true to begin with, which may be circular reasoning.
 
I believe that an integral is defined as follows:

<br /> \int_{a}^{b} f(x) dx = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum_{i=1}^{n} f(x_i) \Delta x<br />

Where \Delta x = x_{i+1} - x_i.

Since we are going backwards, then a and b switch places and \Delta x &lt; 0, hence the negative sign.
 
Or, use this: for any numbers a, b, c, \int_a^c f(x)dx= \int_a^b f(x)dx+ \int_b^c f(x)dx when can be proven by writing each of the integrals as limits of Riemann sums.

Taking c= a, that says \int_a^a f(x)dx= 0= \inta^b f(x)dx+ \int_b^a f(x)dx and so \int_a^b f(x) dx= -\int_b^a f(x) dx.

(Effectively, my, L'Hopital's, and Anonymous217's responses are all variations on the same thing- this result is implied by the definition of the integral in terms of the Riemann sums.)
 
Okay so the key is the delta X in the reimann sum. The thing is my textbook (Stewart) defined the integral as such:

It first set a<= x <=b and then set delta X = (b-a)/n where n is the number of intervals. In this case, I don't think I'm allowed to swap a and b as in l'hopital's explanation because the interval is defined as a being smaller than b, so I don't see how going backwards will permit me to change the definition.
 
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