Understanding the de Broglie Wave Function - Need a Little Help?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the de Broglie wave function and its relation to the Schrödinger equation for a free particle. The wave function is expressed as ψdB(x,t) = Aei(kx-ωt), with momentum and energy defined in terms of wave properties. The partial differential equation iħ dψdB/dt = -ħ²/2m d²ψdB/dx² is identified as the Schrödinger equation, which is derived from principles like conservation of energy and linearity. While the derivation may seem complex, it is often accepted as a foundational axiom in quantum mechanics, emphasizing the role of operators for observables. The relationship between energy and momentum is also noted, particularly for non-relativistic particles, with a mention of the Dirac equation for relativistic cases.
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Just starting QM & am looking at TISE & how it builds from start & need a little help understanding.

OK, for a free particle the de Broglie wave function is

ψdB(x,t) = Aei(kx-ωt)
where A is a complex constant

this corresponds t a free particle with momentum magnitude
p = h/λ = hbar k

& energy
E = hf = hbar ω

good so far . . . . .

my textbook then asks what partial differential equation this wave fuction satisfies & suggests a suitable pde;

i hbar dψdB/dt = - hbar2/2m d2ψdB/dx2


Really not sure why this partial differential equation. What goes on?
Help if possible, please.
 
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That's the Schroedinger equation for the free particle. Although it's not a traditional wave equation (it's only first order in time) it does have wave solutions (e.g. the de Broglie function that you've written down). Can you see how that happens?

The derivation of this equation is a little murky, but it is essentially based on conservation of energy, linearity, and the fact that the evolution of the quantum state is an eigenvalue problem.
 
OK I have a worked example where it verifies the deBroglie wave function

ψdB(x,t) = Aei(kx-ωt)

provided that ω & k obey the condition hbarω = (hbar k)2/2m.

It goes on to find the Schrodinger equation fr a free particle

i hbar dψdB/dt = - hbar2/2m d2ψdB/dx2

which is great.

So is the pde I asked about earlier just a something I don't need to know how to derive or how it came about, but just IS.
 
Hard to say. The traditional way of teaching quantum mechanics is to simply take the SE at face value. Personally, I think that's fine for students just getting started with the concepts. It's probably good to have in your mind that physically, the SE is essentially an expression of conservation of energy; it's first order in time to avoid negative energy solutions that occur with the traditional wave equation. Where it gets strange is the use of operators in place of the previously classical quantities of momentum and energy. I'm not aware of a rigorous derivation of this fact from any more basic principle, but others might be able to chime in here. Generally, the formulation of quantum mechanics as an eigenvalue problem -- with observables defined as the eigenvalues of Hermitian operators -- is taken to be an axiom.
 
Roodles01 said:
provided that ω & k obey the condition hbarω = (hbar k)2/2m.

Note (if you haven't already) that this is just E = p2/2m, the relationship between kinetic energy and momentum, which you can derive from E = mv2/2 and p = mv. So this condition is justifiable for non-relativistic particles.

For relativistic particles, we have to take a different route which leads us to the Dirac equation.
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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