Understanding the equation of an oscillating string

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The discussion revolves around the equation of an oscillating string represented by a standing wave function. Participants are exploring the properties of the wave, including amplitude, speed, and distance between nodes, as well as the behavior of a particle on the string at a specific position and time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the amplitude and speed of the two waves that create the standing wave. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of the amplitude and wavelength based on the given equation. Some participants question whether the equations derived for the two traveling waves are correct.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing uncertainty about their interpretations and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the standing wave and the relationship between the components of the wave equation, but no consensus has been reached on the correct values or interpretations.

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There appears to be confusion about the definitions and roles of various parameters in the wave equation, particularly regarding amplitude and wavelength. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the equations they have derived.

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Homework Statement



y' = (0.80 cm) sin[(π/3 cm-1)x] cos[(45π s-1)t]
(a) What are the amplitude and speed of the two waves (identical except for direction of travel) whose superposition gives this oscillation?
(b) What is the distance between nodes?
(c) What is the speed of a particle of the string at the position x = 1.5 cm when t = 9/8 s?

Homework Equations


(a)y1=(.8cm)sin[(π/3 cm-1)x + (45π s-1)t]
y2=(.8cm)sin[(π/3 cm-1)x - (45π s-1)t]

y(x,t)=A*sin(kx-omega*t)
where A is ampltude, k is wave number, omega is frequency

(b)lambda=2π/k

The Attempt at a Solution


When I answered that my amplitude was .8cm, that was wrong. so I'm confused about whether I'm using the wrong interpretation of the oscillating string's equation. Also, when I used the equation in (b) I got the wrong wavelength. I think the problem is that I'm not understanding what each of the numbers in the original equation correspond to.
 
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This is a standing wave, the sum of two sine waves traveling in opposite directions. Find these two waves. ehild
 
I thought that was the first thing I did under useful equations. Are those two equations not right for the two waves traveling in opposite directions?
 
cosmogirl90 said:

Homework Statement



y' = (0.80 cm) sin[(π/3 cm-1)x] cos[(45π s-1)t]
(a) What are the amplitude and speed of the two waves (identical except for direction of travel) whose superposition gives this oscillation?
(b) What is the distance between nodes?
(c) What is the speed of a particle of the string at the position x = 1.5 cm when t = 9/8 s?

Homework Equations


(a)y1=(.8cm)sin[(π/3 cm-1)x + (45π s-1)t]
y2=(.8cm)sin[(π/3 cm-1)x - (45π s-1)t]
The amplitudes are NOT the same as the amplitude of the original function, .8.
sin(x+ y)= sin(x)cos(y)+ cos(x)sin(y)
sin(x- y)= sin(x)cos(y)- cos(x)sin(y) (because sine is an odd function and cosine even)

Adding the two equations, 2 sin(x)cos(y)= sin(x+ y)+ sin(x- y) and so
Asin(x)cos(y)= (A/2)sin(x+y)+ (A/2)sin(x- y).

y(x,t)=A*sin(kx-omega*t)
where A is ampltude, k is wave number, omega is frequency

(b)lambda=2π/k

The Attempt at a Solution


When I answered that my amplitude was .8cm, that was wrong. so I'm confused about whether I'm using the wrong interpretation of the oscillating string's equation. Also, when I used the equation in (b) I got the wrong wavelength. I think the problem is that I'm not understanding what each of the numbers in the original equation correspond to.
 

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