Understanding the Forces Involved in a Basketball Jump

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The discussion focuses on the forces acting on a basketball player during a jump, specifically before the player leaves the ground. Key forces identified include the force of gravity acting downwards and the normal force exerted by the ground acting upwards, which is greater in magnitude than the gravitational force. The conversation emphasizes Newton's third law, stating that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, indicating that the player exerts a downward force on the ground while the ground exerts an upward normal force on the player. Additionally, it is clarified that the force exerted by the player on the ground is indeed the normal force.

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Hi, can anyone give me some help on the following question:

A basketball player is getting ready to jump, what are the forces acting on both the basketball player and the ground as he is jumping but before his feet leaves the ground.

I was also required to draw 2 free body diagrams...

thanks

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well, actually i know that on the player, there's the force of gravity pointing down, and another applied force with a greater magnitude pointing upwards, I am not sure whether's still a normal force.

and on the ground, there's an applied forced by the player acting downwards, is that all?
 
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We'll help, but only after you show how you attempted the problem. That is stated in those guidelines that you agreed to, but evidently did not read.
 
I was also required to draw 2 free body diagrams...

You didnt even try. http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/newtlaws/u2l2c.html is some help with free body diagram.
 
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ranger said:
You didnt even try. http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/newtlaws/u2l2c.html is some help with free body diagram.


sorry, i wasnt sure about the rules... I've edited my post already
and i just want to make sure whether i got all the forces right before i draw my fbd, thanks
 
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heres the force of gravity pointing down, and another applied force with a greater magnitude pointing upwards, I am not sure whether's still a normal force.

Well if he is still on the ground, then there is normal force.

Normal Force:perpendicular force that a surface exerts on an object with which it is in contact. For example, if I ress a book in a flat surface, there is Normal force.
 
watarn said:
and another applied force with a greater magnitude pointing upwards, I am not sure whether's still a normal force.

That applied force with the greater magnitude is the normal force. That's what pushes him off the ground.

and on the ground, there's an applied forced by the player acting downwards, is that all?

Think about it: What does Newton's third law say? It says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You've got a system that includes only the man and the Earth. You've got two forces acting on the man, and only one on the Earth. That can't be all. You're missing one force acting on the Earth.
 
Tom Mattson said:
That applied force with the greater magnitude is the normal force. That's what pushes him off the ground.
Think about it: What does Newton's third law say? It says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You've got a system that includes only the man and the Earth. You've got two forces acting on the man, and only one on the Earth. That can't be all. You're missing one force acting on the Earth.

so on earth, its the normal force exerted by the player or should i still call it the applied force?
is the force of gravity the one that i missed on the ground?

and one more thing, for the player, i can express it as a particle or a block on the fbd, how should i represent the Earth though?
 
watarn said:
so on earth, its the normal force exerted by the player or should i still call it the applied force?
is the force of gravity the one that i missed on the ground?
and one more thing, for the player, i can express it as a particle or a block on the fbd, how should i represent the Earth though?

Normal force is not exerted on the surface by an object, it is exerted on the object by the surface.

When you make that free body diagram, just represent the baseball player as a block and the ground as a horizontal line. Refer to that link that I gave you earlier.
 
watarn said:
is the force of gravity the one that i missed on the ground?

Yes. The man attracts the Earth with a force that is equal to and opposite of the force with which the Earth attracts the man.

Other than that: Do what ranger said.
 

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