Understanding the Heat Equation: What Does $T_j^n$ Represent?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the heat equation, specifically the representation of terms like $T_j^n$ and the implications of initial conditions in solving the equation. Participants are exploring the mathematical formulation and notation related to the heat equation, including the use of series solutions and boundary conditions.

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  • One participant questions whether substituting $t=0$ into a specific equation is sufficient to answer a posed question.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the clarity of the question and criticizes the suggestion to use Excel for solving mathematical problems.
  • Some participants discuss the initial condition $T(x,0) = \sin(\frac{\pi x}{L})$ and its implications for simplifying the series solution.
  • There is a concern about the notation involving subscripts and superscripts, particularly regarding the meaning of $T_j^n$ and its relation to plotted points.
  • Participants seek clarification on how to incorporate boundary values into the equations being discussed.

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Participants express varying levels of confusion regarding the questions posed and the notation used. There is no consensus on the clarity of the initial question or the appropriateness of using Excel in this context. Multiple interpretations of the notation and its application remain unresolved.

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Participants highlight limitations in understanding due to unclear notation and the relationship between different parts of the problem. The discussion reflects uncertainty about how to apply initial conditions and boundary values in the context of the heat equation.

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Please refer to the attached image,
Question 1, which i have pointing an arrow at.Is this simply asking me to sub in t=0 into (5),
which would leave me with $B_{l}\sin(\pi l x)$ inside the sum?

would they expect anything further?

Thanks!
 

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I recommend when you have such a wide image, to edit it to put the portion on the right underneath. As it is it goes way off the page.
 
After reading the question, I am not even sure what they want to achieve. Additionally, since the book says use excel, it should be burned. What mathematician, engineer, or physicists writes a book and says let's use excel?
 
The excel part is just to examine the solutions we obtain.

Question 1 is a bit dodgy, the first part with delta x and kappa i have done. But it is not related to the second part, which I Have underlined.

that is
"Given the initial condition (3)..." is an entirely unrelated question to the first sentence.
Maybe if I reword it clearer -
how do I use the intial condition (3) : $T(x,0) = \sin(\frac{\pi x}{L})$
to obtain an exact solution?


Also, the subscripts and superscripts are incredibly confusing.
For example, what is meant by $T_{j}^{0}$ or $T_{j}^{n} $
 
dwsmith said:
After reading the question, I am not even sure what they want to achieve. Additionally, since the book says use excel, it should be burned. What mathematician, engineer, or physicists writes a book and says let's use excel?
One who owns stock in "excel"?
 
nacho said:
how do I use the intial condition (3) : $T(x,0) = \sin(\frac{\pi x}{L})$
to obtain an exact solution?
The initial condition (3) tells you that all the terms in the infinite series (5) vanish except for the first one. So $B_l=0$ except when $l=1$, and the series reduces to the single term $T(x,t) = B_1e^{-(\pi^2\hat{\kappa}^2t)/L^2}\sin\bigl(\frac{\pi x}L\bigr).$ You then need to take $B_1=1$ so that $T(x,0) = \sin\bigl(\frac{\pi x}L\bigr).$
 
Opalg said:
The initial condition (3) tells you that all the terms in the infinite series (5) vanish except for the first one. So $B_l=0$ except when $l=1$, and the series reduces to the single term $T(x,t) = B_1e^{-(\pi^2\hat{\kappa}^2t)/L^2}\sin\bigl(\frac{\pi x}L\bigr).$ You then need to take $B_1=1$ so that $T(x,0) = \sin\bigl(\frac{\pi x}L\bigr).$

Okay, that's what I ended up doing. I need some help with question 3 too, (refer to image attached to this post

I am finding the notation incredibly confusing, why use both sub and superscripts, for example
$T_j^n, j=1,...,N-1$ ?What does that even mean. Actually, I've attached a graph, and want to ask if the point $(j,n)$ is what $T_j^n$ refers to. Please check that out also.

With that aside, it says i must use $(2)$ to plot the points up to $T_j^n$. I have $\alpha$ and $\Delta x$, but how do i incorporate the boundary values into equation $(2)$?
 

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