Understanding the Logarithm of K in DeltaG

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The discussion revolves around the logarithm of the equilibrium constant "K" in the context of Gibbs free energy (\Delta G) and its implications in thermodynamics and chemical potential. Participants explore the dimensionality of K and its role in equations related to chemical processes.

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  • One participant questions how the logarithm of K can be taken if K is not dimensionless.
  • Another participant clarifies that Gibbs free energy is related to the logarithm of the Grand canonical partition function, which is dimensionless.
  • A third participant presents the Nernst-Planck equation, explaining its components and how it relates to chemical potential and equilibrium constants, asserting that K remains dimensionless in this context.
  • Another participant notes that K is often divided by K0, which has a magnitude of 1 and the same units, making the quotient dimensionless.

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Participants express differing views on the dimensionality of K and its implications for taking logarithms, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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Some participants' claims depend on specific definitions of K and its relationship to other variables, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the context in which K is applied.

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Well I read in a book that:
\DeltaG= RTln (K) (Where K is the eqm const)
H "K" is not necessarily dimensionless so how can we take a log of "K"?
 
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Do you mean Gibbs free energy?

then it's given by:
\tau log(Z_G)
after taking the derivative you can get the difference or differential form of this energy.
Z_G is the Grand canonical partition function, and it's indeed dimensionless.
 
The full Nernst-Planck equation is:

\Delta\mu=RTln(\frac{[x_{i}]}{[x_{o}]})+ZF(\psi_{i}-\psi_{o}), where

\Delta\mu is the change in chemical potential for a particular species

[x_{i}] is the concentration of species 'x' on one side of a dividing surface (and [x_{o}] the concentration on the other side)

\psi_{i} the electrical potential on one side of a dividing surface (and \psi_{o} the potential on the other side)

And R, T, Z, F the usual gas constant, temperature, charge per molecule and Faraday constant.

It's worth understanding this equation- it governs diffusive processes of charged solutes in solution and leads to a remarkable (IMO) result: the membrane potential. There's various simplifications, it looks like you have uncharged solutes (Z = 0), and instead of \Delta\mu you are using \Delta G, which also changes the \frac{[x_{i}]}{[x_{o}]} term to the equilibrium constant. But, since it's still dimensionless, there's no problem.

Does that help? This is a really fundamental concept- make sure you understand it.
 
It's often ignored, but the K inside the logarithm is divided by K0, which has magnitude of 1 and the same units. The quotient is therefore dimensionless and equal to the magnitude of K.

EDIT: Whoops, Andy got there first with a more complete answer.
 

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