Understanding the Motion: Free Body Diagram of Ruler Pulling to the Right

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The discussion revolves around understanding the motion of a big wheel in a mechanical setup, particularly focusing on the counterclockwise rotation observed in a video. Participants explore the relevance of free body diagrams and the forces involved when a ruler is pulled to the right.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the relevance of free body diagrams, suggesting that the problem is more about machinery mechanics than forces.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the direction of the wheel's spin, proposing to use a free body diagram to analyze the forces between the ruler and the wheel.
  • Concerns are raised about the frictional forces, with one participant noting that the frictional force on the wheel appears to point to the right, which seems to contradict the observed counterclockwise spin.
  • A different perspective is introduced, suggesting to think of the wheels as cogs and questioning the speed of the teeth on the big wheel in relation to the cart's movement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the relevance of forces and free body diagrams in explaining the motion of the wheel.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the forces involved and their implications on the wheel's motion, with some assumptions about the mechanics of the system remaining unaddressed.

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Anyone know why the big wheele spins counter clockwise in thsi video?

Can anyone draw me a free body diagram of what's going on when the ruler is pulled to the right?



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Hi Stalker23! :smile:

Free body diagrams are irrelevant, this isn't a forces problem at all, it's a piece of machinery in which moving one part automatically moves all the other parts.

Concentrate on the speed of the rims of the wheels (and remember that the cotton-reel has two rims, one in contact with the table, and one with half the diameter in contact with the big wheel). :wink:
 
hmmm. well what i can't figure out is why the wheel spins the opposite direction. The way i was gunna prove this to myself was through a free body diagram. but when i draw it the forces i get don't make sense. Just considering hte forces between the ruler and the big wheele, i get the frictional force on the wheele to point to the right...meaning the wheele should spin to the right?

allthough if i look at the bottom two wheels, there frictional force is to the right, but causes a pos moment about the center of the big wheel. I guess those forces are larger than those between the ruler and the wheele?
 
Forget forces. Forget friction.

Imagine the wheels are cogs, with the same distance between teeth on all wheels.

When the cart moves at speed v, what is the speed of the teeth on the big wheel?
 

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