Understanding the Role of Chemical Engineers: Tools, Processes, and Impact

  • Thread starter Thread starter nst.john
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Chemical
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role and scope of chemical engineers, comparing them to chemists and other engineering disciplines. Participants explore the tools, processes, and environments associated with chemical engineering, as well as the significance of the field in various industries.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that chemical engineers are more akin to mechanical or electrical engineers, utilizing chemistry to develop processes and products on a larger scale.
  • It is noted that while chemists excel in laboratory-scale production, chemical engineers focus on large-scale manufacturing, requiring different equipment and processes.
  • Participants mention that chemical engineers apply principles from physical chemistry, thermodynamics, and transport phenomena in their work.
  • There is a discussion about the variety of industries chemical engineers may work in, including oil and gas, pharmaceuticals, and manufacturing, with some noting that the daily use of chemistry can vary significantly based on the specific role.
  • Some participants inquire about the engineering skills and knowledge areas that chemical engineers typically acquire, such as thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, and reactor design.
  • Questions arise regarding the work environment in research and development (R&D) and the types of tools and challenges faced in that context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the comparison between chemical engineers and chemists, as well as the specific skills and tools relevant to chemical engineering. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the work environment and the significance of advanced degrees in the field.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the lack of consensus on the specific engineering skills required and the variability of work environments across different industries. Additionally, the discussion reflects differing opinions on the necessity of advanced degrees for certain roles within chemical engineering.

nst.john
Messages
163
Reaction score
1
Are Chemical engineers like applied chemists? Or are they more like mechanical or electrical engineers using their knowledge of chemistry to make things or processes? What tools do chemical engineers use, like tools to measure or tools to build, or both? What kind of things to chemical engineers create? Why are chemical engineers important if we already have chemists? I've looked up chemical engineers everywhere but it's simple and redundant, I want personalized and detailed answers to the questions that I have and I know this is the perfect place to go!

Thanks!
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
Yes, in your own words, "they more like mechanical or electrical engineers using their knowledge of chemistry to make things or processes." Chemists are wonderful at figuring out how to produce chemicals and materials on the laboratory scale (in glass beakers, flasks, condensers, etc.). But on a manufacturing scale, you need to produce much larger quantities, and you simply can't safely and economically use 10 million beakers, flasks, condensers, etc. to produce a product stream. You need to use large scale equipment like vats, chemical reactors, huge distillation columns, etc. These devices do not allow for adding and removing heat and for purifying materials on the large scale in any way as easily as in a small beaker of lab scale distillation, for example. Chemical engineers are often involved in applying the laws of physical chemistry, thermodynamics, and transport phenomena to designing and operating very large scale processing equipment for chemical processes to produce chemicals and other materials.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Boon Jie
nst.john said:
Are Chemical engineers like applied chemists? Or are they more like mechanical or electrical engineers using their knowledge of chemistry to make things or processes? What tools do chemical engineers use, like tools to measure or tools to build, or both? What kind of things to chemical engineers create? Why are chemical engineers important if we already have chemists? I've looked up chemical engineers everywhere but it's simple and redundant, I want personalized and detailed answers to the questions that I have and I know this is the perfect place to go!

Thanks!

Depending on your career desires the amount of chemistry used daily can approach zero. We work in oil&gas, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, breweries, manufacturing, R&D, power plants (energy), etc.

Often, ChemE's are charged with maintaining the fixed (and expected) output of a facility despite any problems occurring with operation. I.e. a refinery has a fouled heat exchanger - how do you adjust other things to still get the same output required by customers.
 
So what engineering skills do they have? Like knowledgebin circuits and mechanics? I mean what would they know how to build if I got say a bachelor's and going for a master's. What could I know how to build whether chemical engineering related or not
 
nst.john said:
So what engineering skills do they have? Like knowledgebin circuits and mechanics? I mean what would they know how to build if I got say a bachelor's and going for a master's. What could I know how to build whether chemical engineering related or not

Typically you take quite a bit of thermodynamics and chemistry, but also: fluid mechanics (pumps/fluid flow), mass transfer (distillation column design and operation), heat transfer (heat exchangers), reactor design, process controls and senior design.

So to answer your question: it's a little bit of everything. No circuits or learning the complex portions of designing a diesel engine, but enough where you can understand the bigger picture of what's going on in a plant environment. You can design and understand (on a basic level) - pumps, compressors, heat exchangers, furnaces, distillation columns, reactors, absorber/strippers, flash tanks, vessels.

However, a Masters degree in ChemE probably won't help too much unless you want to do R&D.
 
Ok. And what would the work environment be and what tools/things would I be interacting with in R&D
 
nst.john said:
Ok. And what would the work environment be and what tools/things would I be interacting with in R&D

Beats me. I'm not going to grad school. Going into pharmaceuticals usually requires at least a masters. Otherwise R&D could be industry specific. Developing new techniques for a refinery, etc. New drills for oil companies. Theoretical simulations versus fixing actual problems
 
I see. Thanks this helps a lot.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 46 ·
2
Replies
46
Views
7K
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
29K
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
7K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
8K