Understanding the Selective Protection of High Frequencies by Ear Protectors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of ear protectors in blocking high and low frequency sounds. Participants explore the reasons behind the selective protection of high frequencies and the challenges associated with low frequencies, including material properties and physiological factors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that low frequencies, due to their longer wavelengths, can pass through materials more easily than high frequencies.
  • One participant explains that high frequency sounds oscillate too quickly for certain materials, like drywall, to absorb them, while low frequencies can cause the material to vibrate and transmit sound.
  • There is a question about the feasibility of creating ear protectors that effectively absorb low frequencies, with some suggesting that materials capable of doing so may be too heavy or expensive.
  • Another participant posits that materials which can absorb low frequencies might also absorb high frequencies, though this is presented as a generalization rather than a certainty.
  • A participant inquires whether there is a formula that quantifies the difficulty of stopping low frequencies compared to high frequencies with a specific material, expressing uncertainty about the mathematical proof of this concept.
  • One participant introduces a physiological aspect, noting that bone conduction can affect how sound is perceived, particularly for low frequencies, which may not be as pronounced for high frequencies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the reasons behind the differential effectiveness of ear protectors for high and low frequencies. There is no consensus on the feasibility of creating effective low-frequency ear protection or the existence of a definitive formula governing the phenomenon.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the natural frequency of materials and the impact of physical properties on sound absorption, but do not provide specific mathematical models or detailed definitions. The discussion remains exploratory without settled conclusions.

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hallo all,

I was reading some information on my new set of earprotectors and I noticed it said that it is very good against high tones, high frequencies, but not for low ones.

Why is this? How come you can stop high frequencies more accurate or faster then the low ones with the same material?

is this simply because low frequencies with long wavelenghts can pass true material easier? or?
 
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Mcdiddy said:
hallo all,

I was reading some information on my new set of earprotectors and I noticed it said that it is very good against high tones, high frequencies, but not for low ones.

Why is this? How come you can stop high frequencies more accurate or faster then the low ones with the same material?

is this simply because low frequencies with long wavelenghts can pass true material easier? or?
Yes. That is also why when you neighbor is playing very loud rock and roll music late at nght (?*#*?!# him!) you hear, mainly, "boom, boom, boom"!
 
Ah I see, but is there a certain reason or explenation for it?

Who do low frequencies pass much easier true material then?
 
It's a matter of the natural frequency of the objects. Say you have a regular drywall wall. A high frequency sound oscillates too fast to make the wall oscillate, so it gets absorbed. A low frequency sound will make the wall move back and forth, transmitting the sound.
 
russ_watters said:
It's a matter of the natural frequency of the objects. Say you have a regular drywall wall. A high frequency sound oscillates too fast to make the wall oscillate, so it gets absorbed. A low frequency sound will make the wall move back and forth, transmitting the sound.

Eum, I see

but why can't they make earprotectors then that stop (absorp) the low frequencies?
Is this because there are no materials that can be used for this because they are too heavy or to expensive or?

And is it correct to state that when a material can absorp (stop) the low frequencies it automaticly will also stop high frequencies or not?
 
Mcdiddy said:
but why can't they make earprotectors then that stop (absorp) the low frequencies?
Is this because there are no materials that can be used for this because they are too heavy or to expensive or?
Heavy, yes. In construction, when one wants to stop low frequencies, they use concrete.
And is it correct to state that when a material can absorp (stop) the low frequencies it automaticly will also stop high frequencies or not?
In general, I think so, because things that stop low frequencies have to be pretty thick and heavy and as a result you get both.
 
ok I see.

thanks a lot.

However still one question: is there some sort of formula for this or is it just a thing that scientist accept as general knowledge?

I mean: is there a general formula which shows that low frequencies are harder to stop then higher one with a certain material X , or its something that is known, but not yet really proven mathematicly?
 
There's a physiological factor at work as well. Unless the hearing protectors encased your entire head like a space helmet, your skull and jaw bones would still resonate to the sound and channel it to your auditory circuits. That's how bone-conduction 'earphones' work. High frequencies don't have that effect (or, at least, not nearly as pronounced).
 

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