Understanding Undefined Values at x=a in a Function

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The discussion revolves around understanding undefined values in functions, particularly at points where the function approaches infinity or is indeterminate, such as at x=a. Participants explore various functions and their limits, particularly focusing on the behavior of functions that are undefined at specific points.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that for the function f(x)=1/(x-a), the limit as x approaches a tends to infinity, highlighting the distinction between forms a/0 and 0/0.
  • Another participant suggests using the identity for tan(x+y) to analyze the function h(x)=x*tan(x+π/2), but finds it challenging to derive useful information from it.
  • A simpler example is provided by a participant, f(x)=x*sin(1/x), which approaches 0 as x approaches 0 from the positive side.
  • Discussion includes the transformation of the function to f(x)=-x/tan(x) and its implications for limits at x=0.
  • Participants reference the limit result lim_{x→0} (x/sin(x))=1 to deduce the limit of a related function as x approaches 0, leading to a value of -1.
  • There is a question about whether it is appropriate to represent the function graphically with an empty circle at the point where it is undefined, similar to another function discussed.
  • One participant inquires if they can find an equivalent function that is defined at x=0, indicating a desire to simplify or reformulate the function for clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the behavior of functions at points of indeterminacy and undefined values, with no consensus reached on the best approach to represent or simplify these functions.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific function forms and the unresolved nature of how to graphically represent functions that are undefined at certain points.

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I am aware that for a function that is undefined at a point x=a such as f(x)=1/(x-a)

\underbrace{lim}_{x\rightarrow a}f(x)=\pm \infty

But it tends to infinite only because it is in the form a/0, where a\neq0.

Undefined values in the form 0/0 can have a range of values - all reals if I'm not mistaken.

I thus set up a function f(x) multiplied by another function g(x) so that f(a)=0 and g(a) undefined. However, the functions are not in a form where they can seemingly cancel factors of the zero and undefined value.

e.g.
h(x)=\frac{x+1}{x^2-1}=\frac{1}{x-1}, x\neq \pm 1


So, such a function I simply came up with was

h(x)=x*tan(x+\frac{\pi}{2})

I used a graphing calculator to try understand what was happening around x=0, and it seems that

\underbrace{lim}_{x\rightarrow 0}h(x)=-1

Now I just want to understand why this limit tends to -1, not any other real values.
 
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Well, you might try utilizing the identity:
tan(x+y)=\frac{\sin(x)\cos(y)+\cos(x)\sin(y)}{\cos(x)\cos(y)-\sin(x)\sin(y)}
 
A simpler example might be

<br /> f(x) = x \sin\left(\frac 1 x \right)<br />

for which

<br /> \lim_{x \to 0^+} f(x) = 0<br />
 
Aha

tan(x+y)=\frac{sin(x+y)}{cos(x+y)}

But all I get using this result is

tan(x+\frac{\pi}{2})=-cot(x)

It isn't helping just yet.
 
Hang on...

So the function now is f(x)=-\frac{x}{tan(x)}

and since the gradients of x and tanx at x=0 are equal, this gives it the value 1?
 
Indeed.

Or, as you can verify:
x\tan(x+\frac{\pi}{2})=-\frac{x}{\sin(x)}\cos(x)
 
Well, I remember the result

\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{x}{sin(x)}=1

and cos(0)=1 so I guess we can deduce that:

\lim_{x \to 0}-\frac{x}{sin(x)}cos(x)=-1

However, I'm sure that the function doesn't exist at the point x=0, so if I were to draw the function, I would leave an empty circle at the point (0,-1)?

Just like my previous mentioned function: f(x)=\frac{x+1}{x^2-1}
if I were to draw this function, I would quickly notice it is the same as f(x)=\frac{1}{x-1} except x\neq -1

Can I do the same for f(x)=-x cot(x) ? That is to say, can I find this equal to a simpler form (or more complicated if need be) of the same function, that instead is defined at x=0?
 

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