Uniformity of universe expansion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the uniformity of the universe's expansion, specifically exploring the theoretical possibility of measuring any non-uniformity in the expansion using a highly sensitive interferometer. The conversation touches on concepts related to cosmology, experimental physics, and the implications of the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) and redshift observations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the uniformity of the universe's expansion is supported by observations such as the CMBR and the uniform redshift.
  • One participant proposes a thought experiment involving an interferometer that could potentially measure differences in the expansion of space in different directions, questioning the feasibility of such a measurement.
  • Another participant notes that if a non-uniformity exists, it would require significantly more sensitivity than current instruments, implying that such a measurement has not yet been observed.
  • There is a reiteration that while the thought experiment is valid, it remains uncertain whether it would yield any measurable results.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the likelihood of obtaining results from the thought experiment, suggesting it would likely continue to support the Cosmological Principle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the thought experiment is valid but express differing views on the likelihood of measuring any non-uniformity in the universe's expansion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility and potential outcomes of such measurements.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in current measurement capabilities and the dependence on the assumptions underlying the Cosmological Principle. There is also an acknowledgment of the unknowns related to the sensitivity required for such experiments.

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As far as I understand, the justifications for the uniformity of the expansion of the visible universe comes from the CMBR and from the uniformity of the red shift around us. However, I was wondering whether theoretically one could make an interferometer sensitive enough to measure this: the sensitivity of the Michelson Morley interferometer was enough to measure differences of the speed of light with respect to the vacuum, but it would need greater sensitivity to see whether, assuming this result, the expansion of space would make a difference in different directions. Is this an unrealizable thought experiment, or is the thought experiment itself faulty?
 
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Well, clearly, assuming such a non-uniformity exists, it would require more sensitivity than our current instruments have to measure it since otherwise it would have already been observed. How much more sensitivity would, presumably, depend on the extent of the difference.
 
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Thanks, phinds. In other words, the thought experiment is valid, but as many thought experiments, it is unknown whether it would eventually give a result.
 
nomadreid said:
Thanks, phinds. In other words, the thought experiment is valid, but as many thought experiments, it is unknown whether it would eventually give a result.
True, but it is very unlikely to give any results (other than just continuing support for the Cosmological Principle).
 

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