Uniformly charged rod in an arc

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The discussion revolves around the electric field generated by a uniformly charged rod bent into a 3/4 circle. Participants are exploring the implications of the rod's geometry on the resultant electric field at the center of the arc.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • One participant attempts to calculate the electric field components, suggesting that neither the x nor y components cancel out due to the geometry of the arc. Others question the orientation of the arc and the validity of the initial calculations, proposing alternative interpretations of the electric field's direction and components.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the orientation of the arc and the potential for component cancellation, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants note the importance of the arc's orientation and the implications of different segment lengths on the electric field components. There is also mention of integrating components over specific intervals as part of the analysis.

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If a rod with charge density lambda is bent into a 3/4 circle what is the E field at the center?


Well if the rod is 3/4 of a circle then neither the x or y components can cancel out, thus

E= k*lambda/ R (i) + k*lambda/R (j)

right?
 
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You need to tell us how the circular arc is oriented. And I don't see how you got that. I got a different answer for magnitude.
 
from pi/2 to 2pi

meaning the test particle would go up and to the right.

as I drew the lines of E I couldn't tell how any component could cancel, and if you spit it up neither the x or y component cancel out as the r's are different. If the rod was a half circle the y's would cancel out but if it is just a 1/4 circle there is an x- and y-components, thus for a 3/4 circle there would be x- y- components.

and if you add another 1/4 of a circle you would get a ring at which there is no E field at the center. and if you draw two dq lines from opposite sides of the 3/4 circle arc the resultant would be going up and to the right.

After that I just integrated x and y components from pi/2 to 2pi as my instructor indicated.
 
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StephenDoty said:
from pi/2 to 2pi

meaning the test particle would go up and to the right.

as I drew the lines of E I couldn't tell how any component could cancel, and if you spit it up neither the x or y component cancel out as the r's are different. If the rod was a half circle the y's would cancel out but if it is just a 1/4 circle there is an x- and y-components, thus for a 3/4 circle there would be x- y- components.

You can redefine your axes so that one set of components will cancel. For example, if you define the resultant field to be along the y-axis, so that the arc is from (3/4)pi to (1/4)pi, all of the x components will cancel.
 

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